Someone needs to take this crazy man out for the good of the planet
this post was submitted on 16 Jun 2023
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What if the person that replaces him is worse?
One could say that with every election. It’s always a gamble but when you start from such a low point it really doesn’t matter. Putin is a violent dictator using a scorched earth policy against Ukraine. He is ruthlessly suppressing LGBTQ people to the point where their existence cannot be spoke of. He kills his opponents and is engaged in an ongoing Cold War with the USA. He needs to go.
Also, given the lack of a clear successor, Putin's death would likely lead to a power vacuum and infighting-- which means they'll be too busy fighting each other to focus on attacking us.
And the guy that comes out of that struggle will likely be worse than Putin. Just wait.
What "Great Man Theory" does to a person
Irritatingly, this suggests that Putin doesn't really know if his nukes work. If true, this badly breaks MAD.
this badly breaks MAD.
Not really. Current estimates are that Russia has about 1,500 missiles deployed and ready to go. If we assume only 10% will actually lift off, and of those, only 10% will hit their target and detonate, that leaves 15 cities to be hit. Living near a potential target?
Me? I'm not far downhill from a National Lab; if their nukes work, I'm toast.
If any nuke hits, we're all toast.
What? No, it doesn't. It makes MAD more likely. The prevailing thought is if one nuclear state pops a nuke everyone else will; the question isn't who will win but who will survive. All Belarus needs to do it to attempt to use one it and it's over. But I suspect that Belarus doesn't control the nukes.
What part of the article implies he doesn't know if they work?
https://archive.is/j7NqS if you don't want to be assaulted by cookie notices and paywalls and more.
Edit to add: I find it absurd how this logic is used so often:
He insisted that Russia was justified in starting the war because Ukraine was run by “Nazis”, even though its president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, is Jewish.
It's logical nonsense to think the two are mutually exclusive. Moreover, it ignores the very real issue of Nazis in Ukraine. We even see this "don't believe your eyes" nonsense, trying to convince people open and proud Nazis aren't in fact Nazis.
Nobody honestly believes Putin started the war to fight Nazis, he just used it as an excuse because he thought the West would stay out of his way for this flimsy lie. Instead he was quickly called out for using resources such as his own Wagner Group in the war which directly recruit modern Nazis, and thus lost all credibility.
Also, most people bringing up "but the Ukrainian Nazis!!!!" are arguing in bad faith (and a lot are fascists themselves, lol). So rather than wasting your time giving a nuanced overview of the far right in Ukraine, Russia, and the West to someone who's just going to ignore it and reply in bad faith anyways, it's way easier to just say "Zelensky's Jewish, lol" and move on with your life.
(To be 100% clear: I DO NOT THINK THE PERSON YOU REPLIED TO IS ARGUING IN BAD FAITH. This comment is more a blanket generalization, not about this specific interaction.)
On reddit I typically ignore them as nearly all are either bots, paid propagandists, or Nazis themselves who are stupid enough to think they're going to change someone's mind. But Lemmy is a whole new ballgame, and if the poster IS one of the above trying to be sneaky about sowing doubt, I didn't want to leave the comment unchallenged for others to get the wrong idea. I mean this whole post could have just been left at "Putin said..." and most of us just have a good laugh and move on. :-)
"Zelenskyy is Jewish therefore there is no Nazi problem is Ukraine" is logical nonsense. It's a quick quip but it doesn't hold up to any scrutiny whatsoever.
It's also not of any value to anyone to assert that people arguing against you must be arguing in bad faith, or are themselves fascists. If something specific can be pointed to that makes either of those seem likely, call that out. Otherwise you're trying to shut down the conversation, not have real discussion.
I'm not sure if you wilfully missed the point of my comment or if I wasn't explicit enough. I wasn't commenting on whether or not that was Putin's motivation. My complaint was with the logic: "there can't be a Nazi problem in Ukraine, because Zelenskyy is Jewish". That's it. That logic is faulty and disingenuous, because that implies there is not a nazi problem in Ukraine, when there absolutely is.
There is a nazi problem in pretty much every country, it may just have a different label. This does not justify declaring war.
Not sure why your reply didn't show up in my mailbox but I happened to spot it when scrolling through the thread again... So to answer your question, no it wasn't about willfully missing your point, but rather that I wasn't certain exactly where your argument was leading. I did catch the drift of the idea that both arguments could be true, I've just been jaded by reading enough shills on reddit who came back with "Putin wuz justified!" shit that I didn't want to leave it to chance.