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wayward vagabond from homestuck: we should improve technology somewhat. well dweller: xkcd 927 "standards"
I'm just saying we should kill crypto
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It needs to stop pretending to be an investment and go back to strictly being what it was born to be.
A means to pay for illegal drugs on the internet.
Crypto was better even before this when hundreds of bitcoin were worth a few cents.
Just wait. It'll be that way again.
Great.
Not that I'm a proponent of it or anything, but people were saying the exact same thing ten years ago after the first big bubble. I don't think it's going anywhere. There's too much greed in the world, and it's too enticing. At this point you might as well be a nun trying to get porn banned worldwide.
It will only get that way if it reduces in scale substantially, otherwise that just isn't realistic imo
There's always Doge.
I'd rather uppercut myself.
It was never an anonymous form of payment. And you didn't hear it from me, but a certain agency has nearly the whole thing mapped to real people (when possible). There's a whole division dedicated to it.
Monero: 🗿
A very Cool and Popular opinion to have right now
thank u its my opinion too
Without knowing the context of what drove OP to make this meme, my guess is they have some high and mighty idea for some sort of standard and someone else pointed out the XKCD comic is the most likely result.
Found it on Mastodon, I don't know if it's the original source. The XKCD does have a good point, of course. But I mean, if we'd all think like that, no good standards would ever develop, so people shouln't cite it as a fundamental truth everywhere and avoid all meaningful discussion.
Yeah it is worth looking into why certain new "standards" get adoped and others don't.
Standards don't ever get designed just to be the new universal standard, right? There's gotta be some kind of improvement in mind, whether iterating on previous designs or otherwise. I'd say that in many cases the improvement is the focus for the developer, not the delusion of creating the next big "standard".
It's better for "standards" to develop naturally as happens in FOSS rather than for them to be imposed by authorities that will resist changing them once they become outdated, or companies that don't care either way and will follow the profit of least resistance.
Plenty of standards are created with the express purpose of being a standard and selling the license for that standard to large companies. USB, HDMI, BlueRay, CD, Bluetooth, etc. all of these are standards designed as standards.
Which is why they often suck, no? Took years for USB to really find its footing, and now with all the EU legislation setting USB-C I feel like it's gonna become frustratingly outdated eventually.
“You know what it would be cool if Lemmy could do?”
Replies: xkcd standards strip, 15 times
A bad standard adds to the pile.
A good standard crushes the pile.
Example: Git and Linux.
Proof: what are the other source management softwares? (Don’t mention Mercurial, that’s cheating).
Also for Linux, it’s down to the license and history. Linux isn’t a bad investment because all commits directly to the kernel are given freely to all. And it’s not Unix. It doesn’t have the stain of AT&T and their sue happy ways. Also Linux dominates all computer markets except for user desktops. Servers, phones, application specific utilities, etc.
SVN, and whatever that thing Microsoft was doing once
Also, CVS, cvsup, both of which I've used in my early Linux years.
And fossil -- which is the revision control system sqlite uses and I kind of like :)
It is also the version control system that uses sqlite which is pretty cool as far as disk space and resiliency are concerned esp. as compared to Git.
I don't however like that it prides itself on not having any history rewriting features because I am kind of a fan of those. I like keeping embarrassing mistakes like a typo'd commit message or missing file out of my permanent commit history.
TFVS
Also RCS which I am basically obligated to mention
Fossil, GNU Bazaar, SVN, as well as some other lesser known ones
I actually miss SVN. It had a lot of issues, yes, but the cognitive barrier was so much smaller. When I have a merge error in git, I basically just delete my repo and make a new one...
I love how both FB messenger and Google talk/chat/whatever were compatible for 3 months, thanks to a fucking standard, before they both "improved somewhat" to be incompatible.
All hail XMPP!
I know that XKCD comic in particular but I don't get what's going on with the image it's been superimposed on to or what it has to do with it.
The original image has something along the lines of "I hate this system" and the smug guy in the well is saying "Ah, and yet you participate in said system!" as a gotcha. I think the purpose in this one is just carrying over the smugness with which people post the XKCD when any new possible technological standard is proposed (whether or not it has any merits)
Aaah ok. Needs the previous exposure to both images.
It's become a meme where a poor soul wants some thing, and the kid pops out of the well with a trite rebuttal.
In this case, the trite rebuttal is a cartoon about technological standards.
How about improving existing standard implementations instead of more fragmentation?
Unless the original standard agrees and implements it, then you've just created a new standard.
There are times when the original standard has zero forwards compatibility in it, such that any improvement made to it necessarily creates a new standard.
And then there's also times when old greybeards simply disregard the improved standard because they are too used to the classic way.
Greybeards
Lok, thu'um, Dovahkiin.
python2 - python3
usb 1, 2, 3
I like the idea of having a regulated, living, backwards compatible standard. Which seems to be what USB-C is now, for phones. The EU has soon to be active regulation that will make it a requirement for many things. Yet, it's not a single, set in stone standard, but one that's constantly being expanded (eg, version 3.2 and PD).
Of course, the regulation has to also be living. Eg, at some point, maybe there'll be a strong enough reason to allow another standard (by no means do I think USB-C will always make sense). And the regulation has to very carefully choose the standard.
That way we get the benefits of standardization (from actually everyone using the same format), but we aren't unreasonably crippling ourselves to do it.
Why is the alt text calling the peasant "Wayward Vagabond from homestuck?" I mean that's fucking hilarious but why
I usually check alt text before shamelessly stealing it, but you caught me there! Here's the source: https://wetdry.world/@boxy/111455959207468101
This meme should be the new standard format to resist standard proliferation!
BRO WHY DO YOU WANT TO IMPROVE TECH - I AM TRIGGERED BY THIS