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Kia ora!

I've been an ios user for 100 years at this point, but used to be deep in the android scene before then. I've just got an android for a work phone and am wondering what's changed in the last 10 years - what are your essential apps, settings, customisations? I've had a hunt around xda but can't seem to find much in the way of roms for my model (Samsung A04) - back in the day it seemed there was a thread for every device!

What do I need to know?

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[–] ghostalmedia@beehaw.org 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I do not recommend getting attached to Reddit Is Fun, although it is a great app.

[–] Entropywins@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

It still stings... I'm gonna miss that app

[–] EuphoricPenguin22@normalcity.life 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Infinity is still pretty good, and my understanding is that it could easily be updated to support the free individual API keys Reddit is supposedly going to still support.

[–] pgetsos@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I believe it would be against the ToS of Reddit to do so, so I wouldn't hold my breath for it...

[–] EuphoricPenguin22@normalcity.life 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not really sure, to be honest. I guess I'll see what some of the Infinity people say. Even if it's not an option, I'm here on Lemmy.

[–] EvilColeslaw@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah the API limits are meant to be per client. So developing one client and then telling end users to go get their own API keys is going to cause problems. Potentially pulled from app stores and hit with lawsuits type problems.

Infinity is on F-droid, and if emulators (think BIOS files) demonstrate anything, it's entirely possible to pass liability to end-users through mechanisms like that.

[–] bbbhltz@beehaw.org 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot has been said, but I'll repeat a few.

  • F-Droid (I use Droid-ify)
  • Debloat it https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater
  • Change the launcher and icons (lots of choices, I use Lawnchair with Arcticons or Delta)
  • Check out the different browsers
  • Check out the different keyboards
  • Get some key apps like Newpipe (or equivalent)
  • If the phone isn't rooted, any changes can be reset by doing a factory reset, so you have nothing to lose but time.
[–] jennifilm@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Thanks for that debloat link, that's super useful!

[–] jjagaimo@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

ReVanced also for a more stock youtube app with adblock and sponsorblock, and return youtube dislikes

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[–] araly@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago

sideloading is a whole thing on android. don't like the options that the play store gives you ? fdroid has your back

[–] J_C___@lemmy.place 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm interested to hear what others say but I'll throw in my two cents

  • Nova launcher is still king
  • Fdroid store for open source apks
  • Newpipe app -> disable YouTube
[–] EvilColeslaw@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago

Didn't Nova get sold to some analytics company? Not sure if that's who I'd trust with my launcher.

[–] cnnrduncan@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I personally wouldn't recommend a closed-source Launcher owned by a marketing/analytics company, especially if you're the kind of person to use F-Droid!

[–] Fuyuhikodate@diggit.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a long lasring Nova launcer User: what other launcer would you reccomend with the Same Features?

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[–] GhostMagician@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] green_witch@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

UGH that is awful.

Thanks for posting that. Goodbye Nova.

Are there any launchers that are recommended?

[–] araly@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lawnchair is open source and on fdroid

[–] green_witch@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks!

I'm going to try that one out and see how I like it. Btw your avatar is very cute!

[–] araly@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

thanks ! ^^

[–] GhostMagician@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I ended up giving on custom launchers after that and going with what was included on the phone or custom rom. So not sure which ones are good alternatives.

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[–] Helvedeshunden@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Niagara Launcher is the coolest thing I've seen happen for mobile interfaces since the first touch interface. It is so clean and well-designed, it makes everything else in iOS and Android look like a cluttery mess - all while adapting to what you need and offering quick access to everything on the phone.

[–] dan@upvote.au 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it better than Nova? I've been using Nova for as long as I can remember.

[–] bugsmith@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

It's completely different to Nova, and any other drawer based launcher. It has a free version so you can check it out. Personally, I don't like it but I totally get the appeal.

Nova was recently bought out by an ad company, so if that's not something you like then you might check out some FOSS alternatives such as Lawnchair or Neo Launcher (both are currently in development and less feature-rich than Nova though).

[–] jennifilm@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Oh, this is so neat, thank you! I've just had a play - especially for a work phone that has real specific uses, Niagara makes a lot of sense! Do you subscribe to pro? Have you found it useful?

[–] Helvedeshunden@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do subscribe to Pro. Not really because it's necessary, because the free version is already pretty great, but it offers a bit more customisation - and it is cheap. I really just wanted to support the devs more than anything.

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[–] Andy@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Some of my favorites:

  • Launcher: Niagara
  • Rom: LineageOS
  • Browser: Firefox (with DarkReader and uBlock Origin)
  • Reddit: Relay (is this ending?)
  • HackerNews: Harmonic
  • ~~Lemmy: Jerboa (haven't tried alternatives)~~
  • Podcasts: AntennaPod (haven't tried much else)
  • Identify stuff: LeafSnap (plants), SoundHound, Merlin (birds!)
  • Books: Moon+ Reader Pro
  • Barcodes: Catima
  • Computer stuff: KDE Connect
  • File stuff: Material Files and ZArchiver
  • TTS: @Voice Aloud Reader
  • Passwords: Bitwarden
  • Icons: Crayon or Viral
  • Keyboards: MS SwiftKey, maybe someday FlorisBoard, sometimes Hacker's Keyboard
  • Scrobbles: Simple Scrobbler
  • Video: VLC and NewPipe
  • Weather: Weawow

EDITS:

  • Lemmy: Liftoff
  • Chat: Telegram
  • Email: Delta Chat?
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[–] _anarchism_@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

cant really say whats essential as thats on a per user basis, but stuff that has made my experience enjoyable include f-droid, aurora store, and youtube revanced.

[–] green_witch@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

I second f-droid. It's really good!

I'm using NewPipe for a YouTube replacement, but I hear good things about ReVanced!

[–] WiggyJiggyJed@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

F-droid and aurora store our great! I'd add xManager for Spotify, Wavelet, RethinkDNS, Mull, Bromite, Openboard, Frost, Aves. I like Insular as well so I can keep spammy apps kind of siloed off in a work profile. I keep my banking apps and shopping apps in Insular. I remember rooting android phones back in the day but I don't do that much tinkering anymore. The aforementioned apps do the trick!

[–] VirtualBriefcase@lemmy.fmhy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Google's a much bigger part of the ecosystem by default. Used to be the Google app store was a selling feature, now Google is integrated into pretty much every device (and has contracts with manufacturers to force that).

It's also, like Shortwavefilter mentioned, much harder to root or flash a devices.

Though the AOSP has gotten better in ways too. It's gotten a lot better hardening, and still is fairly open (e.g custom app stores added one click).

Last, there's still plenty of bloat pre-installed on some brands, but I think that was the case a decade ago as well if my memory is correct.

Honestly I can't think of too many essential settings or apps that'd be a necessity for everyone. Usually I'd say change privacy settings and disabled as much bloat if you're not using a ROM; but that might not be applicable if you're on a work phone. Apps wise, I'd say stick to open source if you can for the basic offline utilities -F-Droid is great for that if you're allowed to install it.

[–] jennifilm@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Thank you, that's super helpful! I'll have a hunt to disable bloat and have a play with adb if need be. I'm the one in charge so I can basically do what I like 😅

[–] dill@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Try out F-Droid! It's basically a more free and open version of the play store. Plenty of cool apps on there. Def worth checking out!

https://f-droid.org/en/

[–] Skyline@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 year ago

F-Droid is great! The official client is not the most user-friendly, but Droidify is a great alternative.

You can also look at Obtanium to download binaries straight from the applications' developers instead of those built by F-Droid.

[–] okiloki@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can add a private DNS in the settings. It'll allow you to have a dns level ad blocking experience without having to use any of the dubious ad blocking apps. You also don't need root or a VPN.

I'm using my own dns server, but keep in mind that it needs to support DoT. You can't just enter any IP, because of the certificate check (the dns requests are encrypted using TLS).

dns.adguard.com works, but as is the case with all dns services, they will be able to see every domain you access. So keep that in mind.

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[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well, any samsung with a snapdragon chip is pretty useless for ROMS. To ROM these days you need a Google Pixel (best supported), OnePlus (most models), or Motorola (some models).

[–] cnnrduncan@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

LineageOS MicroG works pretty great on my Poco X3 NFC, so they're definitely not the only brands with good custom ROM support!

[–] jennifilm@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, that's interesting to hear, I had no idea!

[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 4 points 1 year ago

The chinese brands are mostly good too, but they dont often support US carrier frequency bands.

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[–] 00@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

For some privacy/security features: "Warden" allows you to block Trackers and Loggers on individual apps, if you have root. "TrackerControl" or "Rethink: DNS + Firewall" basically allow you to customize a Firewall and in the case of Rethink also offer a good DNS service. I basically see no ads anymore, even in other apps.

Edit: and definitely check out OSMAnd+. Theres a paid full version on the Playstore but the exact same version is for free on FDroid. I suggest the paid version to support them. Its by far the best Map+Navigation app i've used, although the public transport navigation doesnt work that well for me. In those cases i use Transportr.

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[–] TheFriendless@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

If you want to de Google then I recommend looking at grapheneos. I haven't yet tried it but I am deeply stuck in the Google ecosystem.

[–] communist@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)

You need good lock, it changes the game for customization, it's the reason I no longer feel the need to do custom roms

You also need to use adb to remove all the bloat.

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[–] dan@upvote.au 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you run your own Plex server, Plexamp is a fantastic music player. You do need to have a Plex Pass subscription or lifetime pass though.

Aegis and Authenticator Pro are good choices for TOTP two-factor authentication. Both are free and open-source. Authenticator Pro supports WearOS which I like since I can get my 2FA codes on my watch. Aegis is very principled and don't allow any non-open-source code in their project. I really respect that, but it does mean that they don't support watches, as supporting WearOS requires using a closed-source SDK from Google.

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