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    [–] teft@startrek.website 134 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Hand starts shaking when he can't update once an hour.

    [–] ritchie@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] badbytes@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Knees weak, as update not ready.

    [–] teft@startrek.website 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    There's vomit in this cron job already

    [–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] Flumsy@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

    He's nervous. But on the surface he looks calm and ready to retry.

    [–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 83 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    I started my Linux journey in the 90's with Red Hat Halloween. I'm sick and tired of troubleshooting and Debian based distros have been fully painless. Those of you learning your craft should absolutely try to manage things like Arch, just leave my old and tired ass be and I'll sit here with my old kernel and cheer you on.

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    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Whenever you get bored:

    ~$ sudo docker run -it --rm archlinux bash
    [root@5452124778b3 /]# pacman -Syu
    :: Synchronizing package databases...
     core downloading...
     extra downloading...
    :: Starting full system upgrade...
    resolving dependencies...
    
    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Its easier to use distrobox with podman

    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago

    Could be. I know docker and this looked like a nail.

    [–] anonono@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    this coming from someone who used podman for years for hours for development every day.

    podman is cancer, it's way better to use docker rootless.

    podman will break if you sneeze at it, and the only recourse you will find in github is to podman system reset which stinks of bad programming.

    docker rootless never breaks, podman may die if you cancel a download because the devs were either inexperienced or bad and instead of protecting the state with atomic filesystem operations they leave dirty files in working directories which make it fail in random and unexpected ways.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

    I've personally only had good experiences with podman

    [–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Wait...is that all it takes to install arch in a docker container? Does this include a GUI or is it for terminal Haxxorz only?

    [–] deathmetal27@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Terminal only. Though in theory you should be able to expose a port to access an X or Wayland session remotely to use a GUI, but I haven't tried this.

    [–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

    You're basically describing DistroBox, which does exactly that. It's amazing.

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    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Yes. It even pulls the image for you if you don't have it.

    [–] aard@kyu.de 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    There's the old saying that Debian is available in three flavours: Stale, rusting and broken.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    All of which are quite stable.

    [–] Phrodo_00@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    Stable in the distro context refers to how often packages change. Sid (which is the one that's broken in that) is not that. The other 2 are stable in that sense, but older software can sometimes be shaky on newer hardware.

    [–] BlueBockser@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

    broken saying

    FTFY

    [–] bazzett@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I really like Debian, but for some reason my not-new-laptop didn't liked it. Issues with suspend, the WiFi and the NVME drive made me to nuke it last Wednesday and in its place I installed Fedora, which seems to play better with the hardware. At least I don't have problems with it in my desktop.

    [–] ComradeWeebelo@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    If you're running Debian stable, your hardware was probably too new for the kernel. Unless they changed their development paradigm when I last ran it, stable is always 2-3 years behind mainline Linux software aside from security patches. It's one of the key reasons why it's so stable.

    See the Don't Suffer from Shiny Stuff Syndrome on the official wiki.

    [–] bazzett@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I mean, my laptop is a Dell from 2018-2019 with a 8th gen Core i5, so I don't think is too "new" 🤷🏻‍♂️.

    [–] lemann@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

    That's surprising. Dell should have good Linux driver support, seeing as they offer Ubuntu pre-installed in some markets.

    Saying that, we have work issued Dell Precision mobile workstations and there are constantly hardware and driver issues under Windows, where you'd expect things to work just fine...

    • the internal microphone not working (handy for meetings!)
    • the 3.5mm combo jack not working (ah, great, no backup for when the internal microphone stops working)
    • the battery handshake failing, causing the machine to not charge, stay stuck in a low performance mode, and constantly pop up Windows notifications saying the battery is not genuine
    • the presence sensor locking the laptop while you're literally working it

    Now I use a USB headset, disabled the presence sensor, and reboot the laptop repeatedly until the battery is detected as genuine

    [–] Johanno@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Go to debian-testing. Your dayli updates are back too

    [–] bazzett@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

    Been there, done that. It wasn't a bad experience, but also not a good one.

    [–] lodaket@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

    A testing/sid hybrid is awesome on my hardware. These guides are pretty useful for keeping things sane:

    [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Can I talk about our lord and saviour, NixOS, in these parts?

    [–] blotz@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

    I've tried nix and its just not it. Its got cool ideas tho!

    [–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

    Well, Debian Sid is rolling-release if that's your liking

    [–] yote_zip@pawb.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    As a Debian user I agree with Loius Rossmann's sage advice.

    Edit: (make sure you enable unattended security upgrades at least so you can pretend that you only update once every few months)

    [–] NoXzema@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    For those missing context, Rossman uses a software that helps view the layout of Mac hardware... and it breaks literally constantly.

    [–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

    That made me laugh at my work desk ty

    [–] PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] fl42v@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    Freebsd be like: where getopt

    [–] Amends1782@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

    Specifically, OpenBasedSecureDistro, with a desktop environment, for gaming

    Please send help, thanks

    [–] callyral@pawb.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    i use void linux and apparently it is a stable rolling release

    [–] spookedbyroaches@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

    Yeah and I'm a small-headed Arch user

    [–] Magister@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Use MX Linux instead, it's all the power of Debian with up to date everything.

    [–] Lime66@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    It is? I don't see a mention of that on there website

    [–] Magister@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Well, I have kernel 6.5.10, latest Firefox (in .deb) etc

    [–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Are you me?) P.s been daily driving arch for 5 years and now switching back to Debian