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just need something to do light development (docker, python, rust, with an ide). something i can upgrade (ram, ssd minimum). laptop would best, but desktop works too

any protips? thanks!

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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 11 months ago

Wow, with those mainboard discounts that is a surprisingly cheap option!

[–] dark_stang@beehaw.org 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Desktop or laptop? Do you need peripherals included? Honestly for under $500 I'd highly suggest looking at refurbished machines. You'll be able to pick up an off-lease Dell or Lenovo or HP system for < $300.

[–] director@some.institute 1 points 11 months ago

Tons of good options in the used enterprise market. 3-5 years old, usually some paths for basic upgrades, as well as a flood of part availability from all the other similar systems being off boarded that were broken and not resellable. Laptops can be a bit roughed up, but full sized and sff desktops are usually in great condition.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can probably pick up a decent desktop machine for $50 from your local ads and put the rest into upgrades and still have some money left over.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

Yup, that or if buying new then check out older models that may be in clearance/sale. You don't need something with a 4070 etc to run Linux, but you could potentially manage to find something with an older-gen video card and decent/upgradeable RAM. There should also be more easily found discussion over Linux compatibility

With laptops, also watch out for models with soldered-on RAM or low maximums, which can limit upgrades.

[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 11 months ago

I think a lot of these must share a bunch of components. I really like my TRIGKEY, especially the Ryzen 5 ($270). Everything worked OOTB with Linux (I didn't even boot into Windows before wiping it), the fan never ran unless under load, and it was super easy to open and upgrade. I also got the Ryzen 7; the wifi module doesn't have a supported driver (under Linux), the hardware is harder to access, and it runs significantly hotter - so I recommend the Ryzen 5.

[–] owen@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In addition to Beelink I've heard good things about Minisforum's mini PCs, they might run a little more expensive overall though

[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago

Yes, both are well known and (even if sometimes some people says they have lemons, for both bands) pretty solid, mine is 14 months old and runs 8h/day as my work PC

[–] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If it runs Windows it'll run Linux almost certainly. The cheaper you go, the more likely you'll have lower priced or older components for WiFi, Bluetooth etc which may mean that you have to dig some firmware binaries out to get the whole thing running.

If you can take a USB stick with you of a typical Rescue distribution, and can boot it up, you'll know what will and won't work easily. The bits that don't work may need some minor fiddling. As I said, there are usually walkthrough blogs etc around.

Have fun.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

You might want to mention if your budget is for the computer alone or for screen, keyboard, mouse,... too.

[–] rar@discuss.online 7 points 11 months ago

I assume you're just getting into Linux? Avoid Chromebooks for this (running linux as beginner) - there are ways of running Linux, but they require some tricks dpending on the model.

[–] Skia@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

Grab any older Thinkpad from backmarket.com and you're good to go!

[–] rotopenguin@infosec.pub 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You can get an N100 mini system for about $150. Pay a little more to get (the intel enforced maximum) 16GB mem. I have a Beelink Mini S and it's perfectly fine.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Forget about those, for 100$ you can get a second hand HP Mini that has a full i5 8th gen CPU and 16GB of RAM. Way better in all possible ways. Those systems also run very well with Linux.

[–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

How is the firmware support? Beelink isn’t mentioned on LVFS.

[–] oshitwaddup@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Look around on offerup/facebook marketplace/craigslist. There are usually some pretty good deals

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Old Thinkpads are your best bet, especially for linux support. I scored a new T14s gen 3 for $300 earlier this year, and like a year earlier got a T14 gen 1 for $200.

The Intel Thinkpads should have great support and upgradeable ram, the newer AMD ones sadly have soldered ram.

[–] peterg75@discuss.online 4 points 11 months ago

I got an off-lease dell latitude 7400. Tbh, got it for free, but you can snag one on eBay for under $400. i5, 16 Gb ram, got a 1TB drive for $50 on Amazon. Runs Linux very well! I'd go with a light weight is like EndeavourOS or Arch.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

No need to be new. I'd get a second hand Thinkpad T480.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago

There are a lot of options in that price range

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

Clevo NV41xx

Corebootable, great machines, intel i7, okay build quality, replaceable parts everything.

Nobacustom sells them branded and with coreboot and everything included. Sometimes you may get one used somewhere.