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Mullvad axing port forwarding, where to? (lemmynsfw.com)
submitted 1 year ago by chocolate_mintute_man@lemmynsfw.com to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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I'm considering ProtonVPN to replace mullvad as they do have port forwarding for torrenting. I also did a quick search for VPN communities, but didn't find any. Maybe just not from my instance.

Just wondering if they'll end up axing port forwarding, if I pay for a extended length plan and then they axe the feature, I will have wasted quite a bit of money. At least with mullvad, it was monthly anyway, so not much to lose.

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[–] Biorix@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I use Proton and it pretty fast IMO even without port fowarding since I can't use it.

And it has special option that prevent tracking in the event of a warrant to get your IP and also a system to avoid streaming service blocking VPNs' addresses

My second point, if you're on Linux, don't expect all the options proposed. The Linux app is pretty bad for now. No port fowarding, no split tunneling. Just kill switch

They supposed to remake it eventually... but it's been a while

So I recommend it if your on windows or Mac.

With Linux it's usable but for the price, It's not good

That being said, you can apparently use openvpn app to use it with more options, but I hadn't have the time to try it yet.

The cli Proton is supposed to have more options but I couldn't make it work even by following the doc. I might be the problem on this one.

Edit: typo

[–] chocolate_mintute_man@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah thanks for the review, Linux is 100% relevant to me.

[–] vividspecter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I haven't used Proton, but they provide Wireguard configs which you should be able to use with anything that supports Wireguard (either on a Linux desktop, or on an open router like OpenWRT).

[–] chocolate_mintute_man@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes of course. Configuration of port forwards and split tunnelling etc are outside the scope of wireguard though.

[–] vividspecter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Ah my bad, reading multiple threads at the moment and missed the context.

[–] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You really don't need port forwarding for torrents. If you want to pay for it windscribe and airvpn have worked for me in the past but ive never had a problem with downloading or seeding without port forwarding.

[–] chocolate_mintute_man@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago

I am aware of that, however, I want to be as discoverable as possible so that other people without port forwarding can connect to me, increasing my capacity to share and care.

[–] Damaniel@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

If port forwarding is essential, then AirVPN is probably your best choice. I've been using them for years (including port forwarding) and I have no complaints.

[–] earthling@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Just learned about this myself. Damn this sucks. They were the best IMO.

[–] ubergeek77@lemmy.ubergeek77.chat 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is port forwarding actually needed for downloading? I thought torrenting used automatic ephemeral ports that stayed alive while you're connected to the swarm (I am talking out of my ass, I don't know how it works, I just know I've never needed to port forward for torrenting).

Does this Mullvad change entirely kill torrenting? Or does it only stop initial seed torrents?

[–] chocolate_mintute_man@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No it doesn't stop it, just seed torrenting as you say. Makes it harder for others to download from you if they too do not have open ports. Got to facilitate sharing is caring.

A VPN acts like a NAT layer, so you basically have to open a port forward in order for traffic to dial your number, so to speak.

It may be in your case that you have UPnP or similar set up, so that your router automatically picks up your open port. Not viable for VPNs which tend to service enough clients to qualify as CGNAT, so we set up fixed ports.

Edit: Looks like I was wrong about not viable, seems like ProtonVPN has a NAT-PMP switch in their config

[–] Matth78@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I believe if no one is having port forwarding (for instance for torrent where there is only a few people) it's not possible for peers to connect between themselves?