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Apparently there's an issue with some instances banning users for criticizing authoritarian governments. Is lemmy.world a safe place to criticize governments?

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[–] lhx@lemmy.world 473 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well let’s find out: Free Ukraine! Fuck Russia. Fuck China!

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 124 points 1 year ago

fuck the orcs. fuck the CCCP. Winne the Pooh shouldn’t run a country

[–] totallynotsocsa@beehaw.org 99 points 1 year ago

Mao Zedong is objectively one of the worst people in all of human history, and his influence held China back for decades, and continues to harm it to this day.

[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Are you still with us now?

[–] SuperIce@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think Winnie the Pooh got him.

[–] macarthur_park@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago
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[–] FlaxPicker@lemmy.world 182 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

i mean lemmy.world server is in germany, but the guy who runs it is dutch so probably has a pretty open policy with freedom of speech i would imagine. And i mean real freedom of speech not the dog whistle for being a dick/racist/phobe

[–] phillycodehound@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago

As one of the Admins of Lemmy.World we're pretty open but if you're a dick and unnecessarily a troll we'll kick ya.

[–] Andonome@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I still feel like I need a new term for this. Yet another word co-opted by idiots.

[–] gabowo@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Freedom of speech with consequences?

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[–] SPOOSER@lemmy.world 115 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All governments should be able to be criticized if we're going to be honest about having genuinely open discussions.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 62 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Seeing as having the ability to criticize gov'ts is a fundamental part of democracy I fail to see why any social media site would think banning it should be best-practice.

That said I do take issue with some posters who seem to rant on a specific target without any sort of evidentiary data. The slide into "I don't need proof to back my opinion" is a prolific and dangerous thing these days.

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[–] Nymphioxetine@beehaw.org 89 points 1 year ago

Fuck the CCP.

[–] N00dle@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago
[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Testing, testing, fuck authoritarian regimes, Xinnie the Pooh is a cuck, Putin is a super super gay who likes long big cocks, fuck Trump, fuck Biden, and fuck the crooks in DC. Testing testing.

[–] Mpeach45@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Haven’t had any problems so far! Taiwan numbah one! Fuck Putin!

[–] nivenkos@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Keep it in the politics subs.

But I hope there is less censorship, it was a shame that lemmy.ml removed this well-sourced comment (and banned the user) -

[–] Amby@lemmy.blahaj.zone 72 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (20 children)

You couldn't have cherry-picked a more inflammatory comment to defend. Truly such a shame that people who misrepresent data for the sake of their anti-trans stances have their obvious rage-bait posts removed.

[–] harbo@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Anyone who doesn't agree with me is rage-baiting especially if they use data to do it."

[–] Amby@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 year ago

Yep that's definitely what I said.

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[–] STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lemmy.World and Lemmy. Ml are two different places. Lemmy ML was created as a safehaven for people from subreddits that were banned like ChapoTrapHouse. Lemmy. World is designed to be the general Lemmy Community. Lemmy. Ml was the biggest until the reddit issues but I am pretty sure Lemmy World is after overtaking them. Lemmy.ML is trying to steer traffic here because they know that their community wasn't going to be palatable to the vast majority of people. There's a wide variety here so it's very hard to pinpoint where this place's userbase stands politically.

Lemmy. ML and Lemmy.world are different places and it's for the best if we just leave each be and have our own communities in peace.

[–] skeletorsass@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just hope people do not spam it to farm karma like on reddit.

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reads the brave, totally not circle-jerked comments in this thread

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

What would be the point. There is no points system in the federation.

[–] TeaHands@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

If you check out the instance sidebar, we're basically running on the same rules as mastodon.world (presumably until such time as we need something more Lemmy-specific)

https://mastodon.world/about

[–] Izzy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

It's difficult for people to have discussions on the internet that involve disagreement without it becoming uncivilized. I don't think being critical of the CCP is a particularly divisive viewpoint everywhere outside of China. I can't imagine the conversation devolving to such a state that it has to be completely banned from being discussed.

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