Fucking hell. The worst part is that it is looking more and more like they're just going to let it happen, and Republicans will (likely successfully) blame Biden for their own inability to not stan christofascism for two seconds.
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They aren't going to be able to hang this on Biden. Everyone can see how fucked up the GOP is.
No, I think the worst part is that I don't believe there is any end in sight. I could seriously imagine a scenario where the House is completely non-functional until the next fucking election. I'm not sure what that looks like, but I also can't imagine them being able to compromise - it's just when and if either side blinks.
Everyone can see how fucked up the GOP is.
I wish it was that simple, but even if that latest poll from NYT that shows Trump ahead in key battleground states winds up being wrong, it at least indicates that too many people still don't see how fucked up the GOP is. It should not be at all close, at this point.
The general public is clearly still painfully stupid and uninformed, and I hope that volunteer grassroots efforts can overcome it enough next year to avoid fascism.
There is no end, it will become exponentially worse as the years go by. This is politics now and forever.
I'm not talking just "politics is a disaster." I'm talking about a House that is literally paralyzed and can't pass or approve a single thing. That would certainly end in the next election, but is it even possible for a shutdown to go that long? I have to assume not but I don't know how this gets resolved.
Its unprecedented, right? At least in the USA. We just don't know what would happen, but its definitely not going to be good. The question is would the damage done be enough to send our country into death throws?
Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA), who sent the House home early despite a government shutdown looming next week, will speak at a gathering of right-wing leaders in Paris this weekend
While in Paris, Johnson said he's in favor of letting federal employees eat cake.
It really does smell like that, doesn't it?
Republican voters are fucking stupid, at this point there’s no doubt. But the “both parties are the same” crowd really needs to open their eyes and close their mouths.
Something something "the Democrats won't work with the Republicans"
Oh for fucks sake, again!? Stop using the budget as a tool to get your conservative crap legislation across. If the bill you want to pass needs holding a country hostage in order to get it into law, then it's a shit law, and you feel bad about yourself
I’m gonna need the corporate news to properly refer to this a “the republican shutdown”.
I would also accept “the republiQan shutdown”.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer on Thursday took the first procedural step to put a government funding bill on the floor that the chamber could pass to avoid a shutdown.
Speaking to reporters ahead of a trip to Illinois, President Joe Biden called on the House of Representatives to “get to work” as a shutdown draws closer.
“An extreme Republican shutdown would force service members and law enforcement officers to work without pay, risk significant delays for travelers, undermine public health, and cut off funding for small businesses.
Departments and agencies began winding down operations in the final week of September as Congress barreled toward a shutdown, which was averted just hours before the deadline when then-House Speaker Kevin McCarthy put a stopgap measure on the floor – a move that ended up costing him the speakership.
The government shutdown for a record 35 days from December 2018 to January 2019 amid a congressional stalemate over funding for then-President Donald Trump’s border wall.
And in 2013, then-President Barack Obama presided over a 16-day partial government shutdown caused by a dispute over the Affordable Care Act and other budget disagreements.
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This shutdown is going to fuck over a lot of people, myself included, right before the holidays.
Fuck the Republicans, fuck Johnson, and honestly fuck the Democrats for voting to get rid of McCarthy. Feels like the Dems closed up a monkey's paw by ousting McCarthy, because Johnson is so much worse.
Why the fuck should Democrats have supported McCarthy when he did a deal with them at the last minute to kick the can down the road and then immediately turned around and badmouthed them? And they had no idea that Johnson would become speaker. Who did?
It’s disgraceful and needless, I’m with you there. But you can leave blaming “both sides” out of it and it’s still the same. One party does not want this, and one party does.