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I wish there was an alternative to leaving Reddit

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[โ€“] nlm@beehaw.org 69 points 1 year ago (9 children)

The biggest thing I'll miss isn't actually being on reddit but the fact that basically any time you needed to look up somthing you could just google it and add site:reddit.com and find some good threads about it.. it's been a valuable knowledge base.

[โ€“] elauso@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I also do this, but even before the recent turmoil I started losing confidence and trust. Brands know about this trick and they know how much consumers trust honest reviews by real people.

Generative AI like ChatGPT makes it easier than ever to flood subs with search-engine friendly posts and comments how awesome product X is...

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[โ€“] sensibilidades@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed, although I do love that their own search engine was complete dogshit. That said, many of the posts I found really useful were at least five years old, sometimes as old as 12. In some ways it may be good for the knowledge base to update a bit. Actually, are Lemmy posts searchable the same way as Reddit?

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[โ€“] Dabadoo@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Iโ€™m sad too. I grew up in the early 1970s loving newspapers and oddly loving the classified ad sections (that sounds strange, but reading scattered somewhat classified content still is pleasing to me. That is how my carefully curated Reddit home feed felt.) As newspapers died, I realized that my small metro area had no good written way to interact or hear about local issues. Our local subreddit became my best source.

And I loved reading subs such as /nursing and /medicine and /talesfromyourserver not because I work in those areas, but because they are IRL communities that I count on for my quality of life and hearing their stories helped me empathize with them and (I think) made me a better human.

If I woke up in the middle of the night, I could read something to get my mind off of whatever was running through my head.

Other than paying for my Apollo subscription, making about 25 comments a year, and using the upvote function liberally, I didnโ€™t interact much. My almost 10 year old account is very shy. I was always wary of being attacked or ignored. Oddly, IRL, Iโ€™m very apt to dive into any conversation.

Iโ€™m tentatively trying to be more interactive here. Smaller groups feel safer.

[โ€“] southbayrideshare@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As someone who worked at a major U.S. newspaper in the late 90s, I think the world needs more people who think the way you have just expressed... valuing local information, empathizing with people outside your circle, and considering how your words will be received. I hope you find Lemmy to be a place where you feel comfortable contributing.

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[โ€“] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I prefer non-corporate alternatives, like lemmy or mastodon. However, if it's going to last, users are going to have to contribute what they can to keeping the lights on, otherwise, if lemmy grows, they'll have to resort to things like ads to cover their costs and it will become reddit all over again.

[โ€“] FearTheCron@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Well, we are on the ground floor here. Let's find something that keeps the lights on and gives everyone the incentives they need to make a great community!

Perhaps a good start would be a page that gives statistics about the time and money required to run an instance. I really appreciate those who have dedicated their time money and reputation to start things up. Lets find a way to build a better social media experience together.

I think many of us would be OK with a number of different models, donations, non-intrusive ads, reasonable subscription fees, etc. Perhaps there could even be incentives for people who put time into building communities by moderating or other tasks. The important thing in my opinion is that everyone feels they contributed to the structure in a way that they want to keep participating.

Edit: I found a budget page from the donation link on the side bar of the main page of lemmy.world.

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[โ€“] rarkgrames@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (12 children)

You know it's funny, I thought I would be sad to see Reddit go but I've been lurking here on Lemmy for a day or two and I've realised that Reddit actually was a pretty toxic environment a lot of the time.

I will miss some of the long running in-jokes (broken arms, coconuts etc.) but overall maybe moving on from Reddit is a good thing.

I hope Reddit doesn't die entirely though. It does have some uses, particularly if you need help on a. particular topic. The specialist subreddits have a large amount of knowledge available through their subscribers and I've often turned to them for help on a tech issue when I have something I can't answer with a quick Google search (for example, a weird issue with Sonarr which wasn't covered by the *arr wiki) and it would be great if this doesn't go away.

What I am sad about is seeing the demise of some great 3PA (I was an Apollo user). The amount of work put in by the devs is huge, and this is their livelihood being destroyed. So for folks like Christian I do feel bad.

I'm interested to see how Reddit comes out of the other side of the blackout. Wait and see I guess.

[โ€“] PsychoticBananaSplit@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The Narwahl Bacons at Midnight

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[โ€“] dear_faye@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

I also feel sad about leaving Reddit. It's been a constant in my routine for almost a decade. If I needed anything - opinions, suggestions, advice - about literally anything I'd immediately head to Reddit. It's bittersweet having to leave, but I know deep in my heart there was no other way especially with how it was going and how it was treating its users. But honestly seeing a new, fresh feed actually felt... nice. I don't see much negativity. I actually see people replying to each other mostly decently. There's not a lot of trolling or passive aggressiveness. I feel hopeful that this will be the start of seeing healthier communities and more positive interactions. In any case, if you're here anyway, you're a part of the group of people who don't think what's happening on the other side is acceptable, so it's already a pretty great filter if you think about it.

[โ€“] Evil@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

I'm actually kinda glad reddit is dying, this seems like a much better place. Short term it's a pain but long term I have a good feeling about this platform

[โ€“] Bretzel@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

OP didn't realized he was using an alternative. Bye Reddit

[โ€“] smokinjoe@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love the thrill of discovering something new on the internet, and then sharing the content with my friends.

Reddit substituted that thrill by localizing it through all the niche subreddits, but as time went on it was obvious how dangerous that can be.

I'm personally excited to get back to exploring.

The downside is that the internet of 2023 is not the internet of 2013, and definitely not the internet of 2003 - but that doesn't have to be encumbering.

But I understand that most people don't want to work for that shit. Hopefully the added competition spurs innovation from all over.

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[โ€“] dougg3@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This reminds me so much of the mass digg exodus of 2010. It's going to be interesting to see how this goes.

[โ€“] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Tricky thing is going to be the onboarding process for laypeople. Problem with the fediverse is helping people wrap their heads around servers. People think the server is the "community." And it kind of is, and it kind of isn't. Servers are a community of people, but severs also host capital C "Communities" within them.

This is probably the biggest thing holding back the adoption of the fediverse. This user experience problem hasn't been cracked. Onboarding isn't intuitive.

[โ€“] kalipike@lemmy.one 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I definitely agree with this. I'm a very tech-savvy person and while I think I understand how it all works, I am confident there are plenty of people that will look at Lemmy and the fediverse and go "uhhhh...nope I guess?"

That's unfortunate.

[โ€“] fishcurry509@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I guess the concept of fediverse is what will end up confusing people more than ever. There's a very good quick starter guide published on Lemmy that I found to be incredibly helpful. Including the clarification that content is accessible across servers but users cannot log in to other servers.

I also think it will be crucial how the app ecosystem for Lemmy shapes up. Most people will just be using an app to access their communities and won't care about the underlying fediverse structure.

Here's hoping for all the apps, which made Reddit what it is/was, to come to roost quickly for Lemmy!

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[โ€“] dougg3@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I completely agree. It was super confusing figuring out how to access communities from other servers, and I consider myself a very tech-literate person. The Digg -> reddit transition didn't require understanding a whole new paradigm when signing up.

[โ€“] oh_so_hazey@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My understanding is (and if I'm wrong, someone please correct me) instances/servers are like little towns with their own communities. But you're not limited to just your town and your communities. You're free to visit any town and join any of their communities.

I'm sure it's much more convoluted than that, this was just my simple understanding of it.

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[โ€“] KreekyBonez@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I, for one, welcome our new federated overlords

[โ€“] Lunar@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reddit has always had a massive problem with misogynists, racists, pedophiles, etc. and the staff never does anything about it until there's media attention. They monopolized the web forum medium which basically forced communities to have to exist on that extremely toxic, hate-filled website.

I'd say I'm elated to see it go, but to be honest I don't think it is going anywhere. With any luck, Lemmy will become a vibrant community while all the assholes stay on the site they deserve.

Edit: Also, Reddit is designed to be addictive and has a reputation for it's negative, doomscroll-inducing atmosphere. Then there's the whole race-to-the-top karma system that ensures that Reddit has a monoculture where all the replies are predictable and similar.

Fediverse platforms aren't built around being addictive and in general tend to be more positive and diverse, making them feel large in spite of actually being significantly smaller than mainstream platforms.

[โ€“] makdaddy502@lemmy.one 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm glad to be a part of something new. Still confused a little bit that's part of the excitement lol

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[โ€“] scp_1404@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It is kind of exciting to be involved in something like what must have happened when digg died and reddit started up. Are we going to get cake days here?

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[โ€“] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm sad to see what's happening to reddit but excited about Lemmy

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[โ€“] parlaptie@feddit.de 20 points 1 year ago

Personally I'm eagerly awaiting Reddit's demise.

[โ€“] xaon_rider92@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah it's sad to see how reddit has fallen, but oh well. You either die a hero, or you live to see yourself become the villain.

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[โ€“] RufusFirefly@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I've been on Reddit for almost 15 years and it's just gotten too big and too moderated for me.

[โ€“] jvilhuber@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

Be the change you want to see. Start a community, advertise it, start bring the reddit folks over here.

[โ€“] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Life on the net is the life of a nomad fleeing a string of manmade apocalypses.

Missing Reddit is better than mourning what it'll end up as when the screws start to tighten (when you have a captive audience, stage 2 is ramping up the ads).

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[โ€“] spaceshiptrip@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We need to make fetch happen!

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[โ€“] byuns2005@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

I'm sad too. What's with these tech companies making the shittiest changes lately? I thought I'd be fine deactivating my Discord after their horrendous username change since I'd still have Reddit but now Reddit is going to become lower quality. I'll be active on here and Twitter since its fandoms are similarly, like Reddit, seperated by subtwitters (communities)

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[โ€“] ClitoralElegy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I for one am glad to be here to make something new. Enjoy the ride!

[โ€“] Morcyphr@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Yeah, it's a bummer Reddit went the way it did. But here we are. I'll miss it to a point. Still figuring out Lemmy, we'll see how it goes. I've tried Mastodon a bit as well but it feels more like Twitter to me, which I used for maybe a week years ago. No thanks.

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[โ€“] godless@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

At this point I'm wondering whether people will stick to reddit even if they pull a 180 on api pricing and all. The whole smear campaign against Apollo and others just underlines they can't be trusted.

[โ€“] zacher_glachl@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm pretty sure most redditors won't care enough to leave. I predict the only people actually leaving will be old guard (like 35+) and FOSS nerds who pine for the good old days of the internet and/or otherwise have ideological qualms with the changes. Everyone else will just grumble and get the ad infested, inferior official app.

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[โ€“] WhiteBreadBuddha@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I'm feeling pretty good about Lemmy, honestly. I wasn't sure how I was going to fill my downtime, but this and mastodon may just pan out for me

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[โ€“] Ungoliantsspawn@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's how the old saying goes: out with the old in with the new!

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[โ€“] imkmiaw@lemmy.fmhy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I just logged out of my account and uninstalled the app (Sync) for the protest, only to realize that I needed an ELI5 30 minutes later... Hopefully my favorite/most useful subreddits manage to join Lemmy as well!

[โ€“] elonspez@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

ChatGPT has replaced most eli5

Tried asking chatgpt some r/eli5 and the answers are often comparable to the top comments

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[โ€“] Fizz@lemmy.nz 11 points 1 year ago

Glad to see it go. It was not as useful as it once was and the community had grown very angry and bitter.

[โ€“] spfhaar@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Honestly better this way, the fediverse is much more resilient and future-proof than a site maintained by a group of people with the aim of making money and deciding the fate of their service, and I doubt that reddit becomes opensource and implements activityPub soon.

[โ€“] Brecat05@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I'm going to miss Reddit

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