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Right to Repair

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Whether it be electronics, automobiles or medical equipment, the manufacturers should not be able to horde โ€œoemโ€ parts, render your stuff useless if you repair it with aftermarket parts, or hide schematics of their products.

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A pretty comprehensive video by Hugh Jeffreys covering how Apple has been restricting repairability in their devices, even before 2012.

P.S. Apple's iPhones may be exempt from California's R2R bill, apparently they slipped an exemption in there for "waterproof portable devices" ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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[โ€“] Engineer@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Waterproof is the loophole! I had a suspicion Apple backing the bill was too good to be true. I wonder if they'll make all their products waterproof to utilize this loophole, or if they actually will improve for laptops and desktops.

[โ€“] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Can you share more information? I'm looking at the bill and by means of searching do not find mention of waterproof. Thanks!

[โ€“] Engineer@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 10 months ago

I was just basing on the PS from OPs post text, sorry. I'd ask them?

[โ€“] Quik@infosec.pub 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This could lead to more devices being waterproof xD

[โ€“] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And then a company comes up with repairable waterproof devices, thus disproving Apple...

[โ€“] Grabthar@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Galaxy S5. Waterproof and a replaceable battery. It is easily possible to do better a decade later.

[โ€“] ackzsel@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

They really don't care if some company did.

[โ€“] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 9 points 10 months ago

So either the iPads become more repairable or they become waterproof.

Everything is coming up Millhouse.

[โ€“] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

OP, can you share more information? I'm looking at the bill and by means of searching do not find mention of waterproof. Thanks!

[โ€“] lemann@lemmy.one 4 points 10 months ago

I'm assuming it's buried somewhere, this is the exemption that I believe is related:

Equipment or repair parts as defined in Chapter 28 (commencing with Section 22900) of Division 8 of the Business and Professions Code

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displayText.xhtml?lawCode=BPC&division=8.&title=&part=&chapter=28.&article=

This very loosely defines industrial/special equipment - I can imagine it would be very easy to a lawyer to make the statement that a waterproof iPhone can fit that category. Something like a Panasonic Toughbook would very easily, and it isn't too far off from an iPhone as far as capabilities and ingress protection are concerned

There are some other ongoing discussions online that are more informed on this issue than I am though.

[โ€“] LemmeeUser1@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

That bill has exception for game console. Latest iPhone can play resident evil port. Therefore iPhone is a game console and is exempt.

[โ€“] leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago

I don't mind "waterproof" just not the one mom says we have at home (water resist).

[โ€“] ratzki@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)