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Search is the one thing Lemmy needs to focus on right away, current search sucks and will run off lots of Reddit refugees their first day.
As of right now, a user in your instance has to search and/or sub to a community from another instance before it gets indexed. You could make some dummy account and sub to hundreds of remote communities so they're locally indexed without having to sub to them on your main account, but that's pretty time consuming and still not a great solution.
I agree with everything you’ve said but I also think refugees need to be patient. I remember being there 12 years ago and reddit was not very sophisticated. And hey, it’s been 12 years and their own search still sucks! Agree that we should be aiming for a better service and work together to provide it but everybody needs to be patient in this time of transition.
You can always use Google to search reddit content though, and that's actually the preferred and optimal way to do it. Afaik that doesn't work with the fediverse since every instance isn't going to get indexed?
That's kinda bad that stuff doesn't get indexed by default, it segregates the internet, just like Facebook and Disord stuff is not indexed.
We really need a better way to search :(
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nah, this is better
I’m used to this too.
I want to think it’s actually an anti-pattern; as we are seeing many Reddit people are deleting their accounts so searching Reddit might be less useful in the future.
Not sure what the alternative is though. Some of the communities I participate in went to Discord instead but that has search problems as well.
I find Discord extremely chaotic and disorienting for searching and referencing old information. I despise this trend of moving all types of discussion to Discord.
Completely agree. Different strokes for different folks I guess
In the same vein as dedicated forums, discoverability is harder, and that’s sadly just the nature of the beast.
One day someone may create a full indexer and scraper, but it’s still too early for that.
There are 2 indexers. The community browser and lemmy.directory. The former is a searchable list of all communities in the federation, and the second one is a Lemmy instance with sign-up disabled so that his server doesn't explode that auto-subscribes to every community it sees.
Bring back web rings!
I was gonna say, I'm getting Geocities webring vibes. Not sure how I feel about that haha.
Shoot I'm going to have to bring back my Alicia Silverstone site. It killed on the old banner exchanges.
Searching different instances is sometimes turned off or even frowned upon. I think indexing is "opt-in" in many cases.
Searching Lemmy might be a different story. You may need to create some sort of filter to search multiple instances. You could probably set up a focus filter on Mojeek https://www.mojeek.com/focus/ and see how that does.
Just to follow up here.
Mojeek can search multiple sites at the same time and create a filter bubble thing.
Most search engines use the site: operator so focus on one site. Mojeek Focus lets you create a set of sites to search. If you plug in a bunch of Lemmy instances you can sort of search across instances.
For example, I used the following to search across a few instances:
{"lemmy":"i=beehaw.org,lemmy.ml,lemmy.world,feddit.de,sh.itjust.works,sopuli.xyz"} (you can Restore that on the Focus dashboard to use the same filter, and add to it as well).
Not great, but it complements the available built-in search.
Search is definitely going to be the crux of the issue for the average user.
If they want to attract and retain the reddit users that aren't especially tech savvy (I totally admit that I am one of those people).