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[–] UnfortunateDoorHinge@aussie.zone 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What an awful event. It'll kill tourism for a good while, and they'll have to make some changes like the bollards near the green area and pub and Anzac memorial.

[–] wscholermann@aussie.zone 11 points 1 year ago

I doubt it will kill tourism but folks might be a bit cagey about outdoor eating near busy intersections for a while.

[–] CurlyWurlies4All 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I had to work on a few TAC client reports a few years back. The descriptions of children's bodies after being hit by a car will haunt me to my dying day. My heart breaks for everyone involved.

[–] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 3 points 1 year ago

I was volunteer CFA for a lot of my 20s, and once had to attend a road trauma involving a kid. Indelibly etched on my memory.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Detectives and forensic investigators are piecing together the events that led to a horrific crash in the regional Victorian town of Daylesford, which killed five people.

Emergency crews were called to the Royal Hotel in Daylesford just after 6pm on Sunday after a car drove through the pub's beer garden.

Superintendent John Fitzpatrick said investigations overnight and into the morning would shed more light on the chain of events.

He said police were seeking relevant CCTV and dashcam footage, and urged anyone with information to contact investigators.

Daylesford is a picturesque town less than an hour-and-a-half's drive north-west of Melbourne and is a popular day-trip location.

Ambulance Victoria regional director Trevor Weston says paramedics had been debriefed and would receive support after arriving to a "very confronting and chaotic" scene, including injured children.


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[–] Death2Litterers@feddit.uk -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Banning all cars is impractical because of last mile delivery and rural areas, but car usage must be dramatically decreased especially for commuting

also speed limits should be decreased in town centres and some car types (pickup trucks, etc) should be banned

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Drivers need to be held accountable and there needs to be infrastructure in place so that individuals that cannot/ refuse to be held accountable have alternate transportation options.

If you crash your BMW (with dozens of driver assistance features) into a Pub, you should not be allowed to drive a vehicle. If you cannot share roads with other road users without getting angry, you should not be allowed to drive a vehicle. If you feel entitled to drive a vehicle on the roads, but believe that motorcyclists, trucks, cyclists and pedestrians should not receive those same entitlement, you should not be allowed to drive a vehicle. If your attention span is so short that you cannot drive a vehicle without getting distracted by a handheld device, you should not be allowed to drive a vehicle.

[–] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Death2Litterers@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that's pretty cool but wouldn't be nice in hilly areas

[–] mupAus@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

They're usually electric assisted though; no problems with hills.

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Shit now I can't get home because I live in a rural area and have to drive to the train station. It would be unreasonable to cycle that distance and unprofitable to run buses often enough to be useful

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the short term, it would be time to either relocate to somewhere more practical, or change your lifestyle.

Before cars there were much more extensive public transport and freight systems, especially in regions that weren’t serviced by extant rail corridors.

Just in Western Gippsland;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strzelecki_railway_line https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonthaggi_railway_line https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noojee_railway_line

Unfortunately, since these Alignments were abandoned by disuse, much of the land has been reclaimed by farmers and developers using colonial-era squatters rights laws. There would need to be extensive Eminent Domain claims raised to reestablish the type of coverage we had before Private vehicles became ubiquitous.

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the short term, it would be time to either relocate to somewhere more practical, or change your lifestyle.

Because that's something easily doable in today's economy.

I've got no problem with cars being mostly removed from our cities and it's slowly happening, but the utility of a car cannot be overlooked for non-repetitive and unplanned travel for those of us who don't like the city

[–] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you think innocent lives is a fair price to pay for your convenience?

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a disingenuous question and you know it

[–] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Driving a car creates a higher risk of killing people than anything else most people do in their lives. Just look at the road toll. Don't kid yourself, we're definitely talking about a trade-off between convenience and risk to people's lives.

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Yes and the path of least resistance to minimise that trade off is to make roads and cars safer with separated footpaths and bike ways. Car-restricted and Bike-restricted roads should be introduced. Banning cars and trucks outright creates new problems

[–] Death2Litterers@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How far is the train station?

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

15km lots of hills, trucks and no bike lanes you would be a suicidal fool to attempt it

[–] Death2Litterers@feddit.uk -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No worries. Ban the trucks and get an electric bike.

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How are we supposed to move the large amounts of rock to build roads (because you still need them for bikes) and the housing that is required for everyone to move to the city as everyone seems to want me to do here

[–] Death2Litterers@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't have a train station at every construction site

[–] Death2Litterers@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

How would you move any more than 200kg with one of those? At such weight you also need pretty good braking - then you've got similar problems to trucks. Why not remove blind spots on electric trucks and call it a day?

[–] Petri3136@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's unreasonable to live there then. Your choice relies on the rest of the world paying the price of unnecessary car trips and the infrastructure for it. And not just now but people in the future will bear the consequences of your decision to live in a place that requires that.