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[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Shit now I can't get home because I live in a rural area and have to drive to the train station. It would be unreasonable to cycle that distance and unprofitable to run buses often enough to be useful

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the short term, it would be time to either relocate to somewhere more practical, or change your lifestyle.

Before cars there were much more extensive public transport and freight systems, especially in regions that weren’t serviced by extant rail corridors.

Just in Western Gippsland;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strzelecki_railway_line https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonthaggi_railway_line https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noojee_railway_line

Unfortunately, since these Alignments were abandoned by disuse, much of the land has been reclaimed by farmers and developers using colonial-era squatters rights laws. There would need to be extensive Eminent Domain claims raised to reestablish the type of coverage we had before Private vehicles became ubiquitous.

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the short term, it would be time to either relocate to somewhere more practical, or change your lifestyle.

Because that's something easily doable in today's economy.

I've got no problem with cars being mostly removed from our cities and it's slowly happening, but the utility of a car cannot be overlooked for non-repetitive and unplanned travel for those of us who don't like the city

[–] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you think innocent lives is a fair price to pay for your convenience?

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a disingenuous question and you know it

[–] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Driving a car creates a higher risk of killing people than anything else most people do in their lives. Just look at the road toll. Don't kid yourself, we're definitely talking about a trade-off between convenience and risk to people's lives.

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Yes and the path of least resistance to minimise that trade off is to make roads and cars safer with separated footpaths and bike ways. Car-restricted and Bike-restricted roads should be introduced. Banning cars and trucks outright creates new problems

[–] Petri3136@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's unreasonable to live there then. Your choice relies on the rest of the world paying the price of unnecessary car trips and the infrastructure for it. And not just now but people in the future will bear the consequences of your decision to live in a place that requires that.

[–] Death2Litterers@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How far is the train station?

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

15km lots of hills, trucks and no bike lanes you would be a suicidal fool to attempt it

[–] Death2Litterers@feddit.uk -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No worries. Ban the trucks and get an electric bike.

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How are we supposed to move the large amounts of rock to build roads (because you still need them for bikes) and the housing that is required for everyone to move to the city as everyone seems to want me to do here

[–] Death2Litterers@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't have a train station at every construction site

[–] Death2Litterers@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

How would you move any more than 200kg with one of those? At such weight you also need pretty good braking - then you've got similar problems to trucks. Why not remove blind spots on electric trucks and call it a day?