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[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)

But, it’s not. Alcohol is not a homogeneous mixture of two or more substances, nor a substance dissolved into another.

It’s its own chemical category of one or more hydroxyl groups bound to a saturated carbon atom.

[–] 018118055@sopuli.xyz 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It is a solvent but not a solution

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

Exactly. If you’re gonna make a chemistry joke, at least get it right.

Something like “Alcohol isn’t a solution, but it can be a solvent for the right problem” would be clever and true.

[–] Anamana@feddit.de 4 points 10 months ago

Hm.. In german there's not even a big difference between the words. One is 'Lösungsmittel' the other one is 'Lösung'. So I think for us it works fine either way.

[–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

okay but 'alcohol' in its original meaning (alcoholic drink) is, right?

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

No, because the alcohol in a drink (ethanol) is still not a solution.

That’s not the original meaning either. The original meaning came from Arabic for a stibnite distillation used as eye liner. It came from Al-kuhl. It’s the same way that “spirit” came to mean a hard liquor. Distilling something down to its purest form was meant to harness the “spirit” of the thing.

A given spirit is a solution of alcohol and water, but alcohol itself is not. Which makes the whole “technically” part of the joke fall flat.

[–] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Liquor is a solution.

Finally fixed.

Wine and beer probably are too, but I feel like there's an off chance that some varieties of beers (saisons come to mind) could be suspensions.

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah that would work to with the “technically”.

“Alcohol is not a solution, but liquor technically is.”

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

100 % pure alcohol or Ethanol does not exist. It is always a mixture, specifically a solution, with water.

[–] BluesF@feddit.uk 1 points 10 months ago

Ethanol can exist in pure form. It absorbs water as soon as it comes into contact with it, but 100% (or as close to 100% as any chemical) Ethanol is possible when stored correctly.

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ethanol sure. There are hundreds of kinds of alcohols.

Cholesterol is an alcohol. Sorbitol is an alcohol. Ethylene glycol is an alcohol. Propylene glycol is an alcohol.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

As well as e.g. sugars. I know. Thus, commonly the term alcohol referrs to either Ethanol ("alcohol") or the whole group of substances ("an alcohol", "alcohols").

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Technically, it's a solvent.

But the pun is too good, so for the purpose of advancing interest in chemistry, I will let it pass.

Have an up vote.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@lemmy.one 4 points 10 months ago

Alcoholic drinks, commonly referred to as “alcohol”, are solutions, you pedant.

[–] phorq@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago
[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 months ago

It's not alcohol's fault that English is a stupid language, I will comfort some alcohol later and reassure it.

Let's watch people waste time on pedantic instead of just enjoying a quip

[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 10 months ago

The best kind of correct