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[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 108 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It was a Hamas ambulance... The dozen kids at killed in the area? Hamas. The hospitals we bombed? Believe it or not, Hamas. We're the victims here - look at the number of ~~Palestinian kids~~ Hamas combatants we've been forced to kill in ~~a transparently genocidal land-grab~~ self-defence.

-Israel ~~probably~~.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Strike the designated refugee camp and the emergency responders responding to the strike? Believe it or not, also hamas

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"They were coming right for us!"

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

Hamas whenever it's convenient.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am genuinely wondering how many Hamas they have managed to kill.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let's run the high-level numbers then...

  • So far, they've killed ~11k people

  • The population of the West Bank and Gaza strip is ~5m people.

  • There's 20-25k Hamas members.

  • ~45% of the Palestinian population is children.

So far, Israel have killed ~0.22% of the Palestinian population, which would suggest about 55 Hamas fighters and about 5,000 children.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

...but do you condemn Hamas?

The global media coverage of this is arguably assisting a genocide.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

LMAO so true.

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 51 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Jesus fucking Christ, Israel. Can you try to at least not hit non-combatants?

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You mean, can you not try to hit non-conbatants?

They are aiming for them at this point

[–] SlopppyEngineer@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

At this moment you get the impression Israel pushed specificity so Hamas would attack, giving them casus belli to wipe Gaza out. You're expecting Israel to claim they found WMD in Gaza any moment now.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Personally, I feel someone paid Hamas a lot of money to do this, tricking them into thinking they would have support after the attack. Then remove support, let Israel commit genocide with Bidens approval, give ammo to Trump and republicans for 2024.

Any Democrat or GOP president would have done this because the US likes that grasp on the middle east. If Israel were to come out from under their thumb they'd lose political control.

This is a super conspiracy of course, but I wouldn't put it beyond someone like Putin or Xi

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Terrorists do what terrorists do.

[–] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Israel, and it's supporters, will say that Hamas was hiding in the abulences. all of the literal children were all terriosts and that being bombed is proof enough they were Hamas. I mean... WHY ELSE DIDN'T THEY MOVE LIKE WE TOLD THEM TOO?!?

It's disgusting BS.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don't see them as non-combatants. At this point they are just categorizing anyone simply being in Gaza as part of Hamas.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"If they weren't Hamas, they would have been in the south... where we totally aren't bombing as well"

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

we totally will also let them back in the north later

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[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After the Holocaust some worked to make sure it never happened again, but some just took good notes.

[–] pufferfischerpulver@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not agreeing with what Israel is doing at all. But equalling the bombing of a convoy of ambulances, albeit absolutely despicable, is not the same as the systematic, industrial scale eradication of millions of people. It's really making the Holocaust seems less insane than it was. Again, not that that gives the Israeli government a carte blanche.

[–] DrZoidbergYes@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Israel has, for decades, been engaged in the systematic eradication of the people of Palestine. They have been committing genocide. It's clear their aim is the total destruction of Palestine. While more subtle than the holocaust, the ultimate aim is the same and far more likely to be successful.

[–] Kben@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

At this stage you would have to think anyone still supporting this genocide are sick to their very soul.

[–] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Fucking nazi scum.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hamas was hiding under the ambulances.

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[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So when is Israel bombing Geneva?

[–] Substance_P@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Indirectly through moral bankruptcy they already have.

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