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[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 137 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (37 children)

FYI, a lemmy iOS app, Mlem, is in active development, and we hope to be at 1.0 by July 1. It's heavily inspired by Apollo, but, obviously, with changes for lemmy.

Stay tuned and subscribe to c/mlemapp for updates!

Edit: I want to note that, since one of the biggest sticking points with 3rd-party apps has been both accessibility for the blind and deaf and mod tools, they're both on our minds as we design the interface. Getting both right will, of course, take time, but we want everyone to know that we fully intend to make our app usable for everyone.

[–] pkulak@beehaw.org 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Been using it for a few days, and it's very nice. Not feature complete, obviously, but what's there is great.

[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Glad you like it-- there will probably be many changes as soon as it gets updated (we're still figuring out what works and what doesn't). But, and everyone should be aware of this: v1.0's goal is "be functional and stable". Features will get added as we go (hopefully quickly). Apps like Apollo, RIF, etc, are mature, having been developed over years of work and user feedback. And while we can stand on the shoulders of giants like Christian Selig with regard to our direction and goals, we're just getting started.

That said, we're here to serve the community as we are also part of it, so we are doing all we can to build a great app!

[–] mint@beehaw.org 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

there is also Jerboa on Android for folks who are on Boost, which is also going to inevitably disappear lol

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[–] Kamirose@beehaw.org 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Edit: I want to note that, since one of the biggest sticking points with 3rd-party apps has been both accessibility for the blind and deaf and mod tools, they’re both on our minds as we design the interface. Getting both right will, of course, take time, but we want everyone to know that we fully intend to make our app usable for everyone.

This is excellent to hear. If you're still on reddit, you should post this to r/blind, as they've been in limbo about whether their tools will be granted an "exception" to use the reddit API and they may be looking into alternatives for their community.

[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'll consider it, but feel free to x-post this there or make your own post. We're not exactly in PR mode right now since these tools and features are still in their conceptual stages and we're still trying to figure out how best to implement them-- especially the accessibility features. We're looking to bring on an accessibility specialist to the team to consult with us, so if anyone would like to help on that front Please let us know by joining our Mlem app chat on Matix.

We'll also be making a wider recruitment post to expand our dev team in the next few days, so keep an eye out for that, too! We're currently a tiny team of passionate volunteers, and there's a LOT to do!

edit: Link to GitHub project iif anyone wants to get a feel for where we are now.

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[–] Jxn@beehaw.org 74 points 1 year ago (5 children)

And now I’m here after 17 years on Reddit. 🤷‍♂️

[–] oranges@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You and me both.... I have seen that place through its ups and downs. From the narwhal bacon's at midnight to Jolly Rancher, Zoop and the swamps of drogba.

I finally left my account a few days ago and haven't been back since. The place is a shell of what it used to be and it's been really very refreshing have a scout about somewhere else.

Fuck greed..... It eventually ruins everything!

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[–] acowley@beehaw.org 61 points 1 year ago (9 children)

How do you get to the point where you're accusing Christian of blackmailing you in this situation? You're the 500lb gorilla who's driving all these app developers out of business. Even if you really feel like these app developers have been free riding on your largesse, how do you have so little perspective to be this petty and spiteful?

[–] wslagoon@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm still not clear what the alleged threat was, that the app would... make API calls? earning reddit money? That Christian would say unfriendly things about the company that screwed him? What threat is an app developer to a corporation? It's just patently absurd.

[–] Dalinar@lemmy.nz 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Weaponizing the community can be pretty powerful.

I love that Christsin had recordings. Can't wait to see how spez's AMA goes.

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[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is sad to see an amazing app become rendered useless due to some companies greed. They were not even being reasonable with pricing nor did they really give the dev time to figure out what to do.

I really hope that everyone leaves reddit and comes to the fediverse. Mastodon had a huge boost and it completely replaced twitter for me. I am sure Lemmy can do the same.

[–] NotSteve_@beehaw.org 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm hoping Christian ports Apollo to Lemmy. I'm not sure what the feasibility of doing so is but I'd actually pay a monthly subscription for the ability to continue using it

[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think he wants the apps to die with its legacy. Maybe he would make another app that does it. I hope he does and I would pay a modest subscription for it.

I hope that on June 30th, when it shuts down, the app doesn't just give an error message but instead displays some kind of farewell message.

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[–] zaktmt@beehaw.org 48 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This is a big reason why I'm here as of today. I just can't in good conscience support what Reddit is doing. I've been an Apollo user since it launched out of beta. I jumped at the chance to have paid Christian twice for both the original premium upgrade. And then the Ultra one later down the road. I just adore the app. When I switched to Android I still found myself missing it terribly. Since switching back to iOS. I've averaged 15-20 hours per week just using Apollo.

End of an era :(

[–] bouncing@partizle.com 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

I’m a more recent Apollo user, having switched to iPhone last year. But I’m in the same boat. The third party apps are the only way to go on any platform.

I’ve also been a paying Reddit gold (now premium) user for, I dunno, maybe 10 years. It’s offensive that after all that, I can’t run the software I want to run to access the site. It’s a sign of enshittification.

And frankly, Apollo or not, Reddit isn’t what it used to be. It’s less friendly and welcoming than the narwhal days when /r/LucidDreaming was the hottest community. It’s more abrasive now, more childish. Like the rest of the internet, I suppose.

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[–] paulchartres@beehaw.org 44 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Signed up to Lemmy today, but held off to see if the Reddit situation was going to get any better. Seems like it won't, so one big hearty fuck you to them.
I'll try and contribute as much as I can to this community.

[–] overlordror@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Hoping Lemmy is able to re-create the feeling and community of early reddit. The reddit we're all refugees from felt vastly different ten years ago. All of the venture capital funding has ruined something that used to be a replacement for fragmented forum communities. Maybe a mass exodus to federated Lemmy instances can help re-create that early feeling.

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[–] CaptainEffort@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago

Yup, Christian's latest post about Apollo sealed the deal for me leaving. It's a bummer, but hopefully it leads to something new and exciting starting here! I'm guessing there's been a pretty big influx of Reddit refugees.

[–] vanderbilt@beehaw.org 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I read a comment that said the admins are holding an AMA soon to "address the concerns of the community". Can't wait to see that turn into a mega-shitshow.

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[–] mint@beehaw.org 44 points 1 year ago (5 children)

beehaw admins prepare for another wave of users probably lol

[–] uthredii@beehaw.org 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Might be worth pointing people towards https://sh.itjust.works/ as they don't have too much users yet and the admin claims to have a lot of compute at their disposal.

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[–] JshKlsn@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Wow, the fact Reddit is claiming he's blackmailing them for 10 million dollars is insane.

The fact the dev recorded it and posted it online for people to listen to themselves is great. God I love living in Ontario Canada where it's a single party consent to record others on the phone.

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[–] jaden@partizle.com 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Haha I literally just came from that post! I left the app, downloaded lemmy, made an account, and apparently get to pick up right where I started.

[–] followthewhiterabbit@beehaw.org 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well I'm done.

Warned the mod teams in the various subs I mod that I won't be back after the 30th. It's sad because I feel I am letting them down, but the knowledge I've gained from various communities and posts there isn't worth the price now.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Recreate the communities here. Let other redditors know.

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[–] overlordror@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Thanks for standing up for what you believe in. I've been a part of reddit myself for more than 15 years on different accounts and I just can't continue to go down the rabbit hole into VC-funded junk. The site seriously started to degrade after the huge venture capitalist investment (from Chinese firms no less) in 2019 and it's just gotten worse in the five years since then.

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[–] Kuroneko@beehaw.org 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Signed up for Lemmy a couple days ago and I now’s the perfect time for my first comment. I’d like to give Reddit a hearty “fuck you” for running an awesome dev out of business with your lying and defamation.

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[–] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 31 points 1 year ago (13 children)

If you're here and you have the technical skills, please consider running your own instance. Beehaw and lemmy.ml are getting slammed.

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[–] FistfulOfBottlecaps@midwest.social 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

God, I feel so bad for Christian. What a slap in the face….

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[–] hellerphant@beehaw.org 26 points 1 year ago

This is really sad. I rarely posted on Reddit, and I mostly use it as an information source, but Apollo is how I mostly interacted with the platform, and when I did post, it was always through Apollo.

One silver lining is I found Beehaw as a result, and I like interacting and posting here, so I guess... thanks for being shit Reddit!

[–] Lucy@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sad news. I use Boost which I love. But won't be using Reddit anymore once 3rd party apps are cut off.

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[–] heyfluxay@midwest.social 23 points 1 year ago (10 children)

First Tweetbot and now Apollo… Two apps that shaped my interaction on their respective platforms. Sucks….

Much like the rest of you, I’m investing myself to Lemmy and giving Reddit the finger. Assholes.

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[–] noodlejetski@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] aedyr@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The initial breaking of this story is what drove me to explore some Reddit alternatives, but this is worse than I realized. It's a bummer to see the enshittification principle on full display.

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[–] Chronoshift@fosstodon.org 20 points 1 year ago

@mint
Yeah, it is a disappointing thing what Reddit has done. Also hello to everyone at /c/Tecnology Beehaw.org on Lemmy from Fosstodon.org on Mastodon. :)

[–] Gork@beehaw.org 18 points 1 year ago

Begun, the migration has.

[–] Rhabuko@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] esskay@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still needs to happen though. Many subs are going dark for good as well, the more that do that the better.

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