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[–] mrpants@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The uncomfortable question no one wants to answer.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hey, let's give them a country of their own in the Holy Land!

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't someone already living there? Eh, fuck it, I'm sure they won't mind moving over.

[–] mrpants@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is very contested land. The people living there before them had just driven out the people living their before them who had also done the same and it goes on like that for a very long time. When you get back to it the best archaeological records say the earliest people there were likely one of the less popular sects of Jews.

If we're going by who was living there then everyone after the Jews is an occupier that denied today's Jews the land of their ancestors. But this is a bad argument.

The truth is in the details:

  1. Palestine and Israel both became states at the same time. There were both Arabs and Jews living there.
  2. Jews had purchased land from Arabs living there before Israel became a state.
  3. A lot of the land in the entire region was empty.
  4. The Ottomans kept very poor land ownership records. No one knows who exactly owned what.
  5. There were several wars started by Palestine against Israel where the Palestinians lost land.
  6. The Gaza strip and West Bank are undeniably Palestinian land. Israel needs to stop attacking the West Bank and taking its land.
  7. Gaza, Iran, and all the nationalist organizations and governments that believe in the genocide of Jews as the end goal here need to be removed by their people.
[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, screw that. Let's give them Texas.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Would they want Texas? I heard you can't get a decent bagel there. Of course, I suppose you could once you filled it with Jews...

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because it's irrelevant? They can go all over the place. Germany and the US are allies, among many others. The real question is where can Palestinians go, they have literally nowhere to go to, and they're dying like flies.

[–] mrpants@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah dude you've just solved the question of where to send 8m people of various means who are so widely discriminated against that they formed a state to defend their remaining people.

The answer of where to send them both is nowhere. It's to cease fire and everyone accepts a two state solution.

[–] sorhead@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Poland, the Baltics, other places without large pro-Palestine/pro-Hamas communities.