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[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you want to do something get out on the streets. South African apartheid fell with the help of international pressure.

Also you can boycott israeli goods.

https://bdsmovement.net

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The BDSMovement has a great acronym

[–] elouboub@kbin.social 41 points 11 months ago (44 children)

It's not genocide, it's self-defense /s

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[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 40 points 10 months ago (32 children)

As a father of a soon-to-be-4-year-old, that picture tears me up inside. I can't fathom losing my son, especially not in this way. That goes for both sides of this fucking terrible thing.

Children. Are. Not. Acceptable. Collateral. Damage.

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[–] WidowsFavoriteSon@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Do Hamas claims require independent confirmation, or only Israeli ones?

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 29 points 11 months ago

Excellent point. I propose a cease fire so international observers can enter Gaza to verify these claims.

[–] superguy@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Just like with the Ukraine-Russia war, both sides are going to be lying and we won't have a clear picture of what's going on for a long time.

Pretty much anyone who 100% believes one side is an idiot that doesn't understand propaganda in war. I don't think that's most people, though.

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[–] nimnim@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Blindly accepting the claims of a terrorist organization is the new norm apparently.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You're right. There should be a cease fire so neutral international observers can go investigate.

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[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago
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[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (26 children)

If Israel wanted to end this they could. They'd get their hostages back and they'd get to mourn their dead.

Instead they immediately moved to starve millions of people to spite, what Wikipedia claims is (ie. a likely exaggerated) 20,000 Hamas members, of which Israel can only count one to be officially killed by their actions so far.

They're now talking of a "final solution" for the "palestine problem". Half are already homeless, trapped beside the border crossings that israel bombs if not to their liking. How long until Israel is either allowed to enact their "final solution" or instigates a regional conflict between countries trying to prevent that?

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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If only Saudi Arabia didn't want a civilian nuclear program.

What am I talking about? Saudi Arabia was about to sign a defense agreement with the United States that would have allowed them to have a civilian nuclear program and enter into a defense pact with the United States. The only condition placed on Saudi Arabia was that they had to normalize relations with Israel. Iran didn't like this, because they're biggest competitor in the region was Saudi Arabia. If only there was a way to keep Saudi Arabia from normalizing relations with Israel. I wonder what Iran could have done to prevent that...

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