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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by visnudeva@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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I have been using Skiff for about a year or so and was only satisfied with their email which can forward your Gmail emails and have aliases for free, the calendar app didn't notify me so it was useless but now it does and it works very well, I could also import my Tutanota calendar very easily. The drive has 10gb for free and can now download all your Google drive in one click and you can use IPFS as storage, this company is really making it easy to get out of Google with a smile.

What do you all think about it ?

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[–] CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Probably an ad, but much more subtle if so. The old ones were so blatant. :)

What makes you do it with a smile? What does it give you that proton or tutanota doesn't?

[–] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this company is really making it easy to get out of Google with a smile.

yet another fake privacy initiative. this post is clearly an ad

[–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I consider marketing something as “for free thinkers” as a huge red flag.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Never heard of it, am suspicious.

Also, those icons in the preview image look like an abstracted Peter Griffin.

"Lois, look: I'm icons now! Hehehehehehehehe!"

[–] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I want the drugs you are on

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Talk to your doctor to see if Imagination™ is right for you!

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[–] visnudeva@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Lol

[–] neutron@thelemmy.club 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Looks interesting. The first glance it looks like "Yet another company trying to make Email what it isn't", which means breaking all compatibility with existing mechanisms (e.g. IMAP) at cost of getting locked-in into their own ecosystem (unless you pay premium and enable IMAP back like Proton does).

This is why while I want companies like Proton and Tutanota succeed, I don't use their email products for business purposes.

[+] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

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[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

People need to stop trying to make email as a medium private outside of choosing providers that don't scan or snoop or offer unauthorized (by which I mean YOU do not consent to them sharing with ANYBODY or ORGANIZATION) externalized access or monetize on that which you send/receive/retain.

Don't send an email unless you are aware and consent to it being preserved and shared endlessly with zero input or consideration for your view of that.

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Mails being encrypted end-to-end would obviously be ideal, but yeah. How many people outside of our privacy bubble use a private service, and/or have PGP set up? How many even know what PGP is?

The messages that sit in my inbox being encrypted and not being accessed by the provider I'm using is realistically the best I can hope for.

[–] SpeakinTelnet@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've been told multiple times that having a @protonmail email makes me look like a conspiracy theorist, once in an interview. Privacy is way more niche than I'd hope for.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In an interview?

Glad they let you know their ignorance on security up front.

Seriously, do they leave their doors open for anyone to walk in, or do they use badge readers like everyone else?

[–] SpeakinTelnet@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Some companies don't see privacy as security. They want to know your background, when you punch in/ punch out, if you're the type of person to leak secrets over the "dark web".

Some also don't believe in privacy at all, they believe in contract. When choosing a platform they want to know if they can sue them for breaching an NDA.

I did not receive an offer from that specific interview but yeah, I admit it was odd and didn't inspire trust so I wouldn't have accepted anyway.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

PGP to me is literally only of any interest as a quick way to encrypt anything/files/documents (in a preferable format to zip or archives etc) in a keyfile type fashion where you need the credential and password for any given decryption and it can be done so quickly if you have a good app.

I would never use it for like email stuff, if we're talking about messaging its gotta be Signal or Threema or Matrix(Element, Session) etc. Maybe Olvid or SimpleX is interesting too but I'm open to a larger discussion of messaging and the available platforms and discussion of the nitpickier deets.

[–] visnudeva@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can choose between Skiff storage or IPFS, IPFS is a decentralized file storage system, which means that there is no central authority controlling the system, making it more secure than traditional centralized file storage systems. IPFS uses a number of security features, such as encryption and hashing, to protect files, making it a secure way to store sensitive information.

I don't know about email encryption except for what they say.

They call copy and paste are called move and duplicate.

As I said their app are not perfect yet but they are improving very fast, what is missing is being fixed as we speak.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

there is no central authority controlling the system, making it more secure than traditional centralized file storage systems.

Not really. Maybe more available but almost certainly less secure compared to files just sitting on a single server somewhere in terms of data being accessible to attackers.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What is the advantage of IPFS over other storage types?

I think it allows syncing without requiring a central node, that’s how AnyType seems to use it.

What I don't understand is how can anyone claim that their mail is encrypted, if Skiff does that for them (as in, non-Skiff to Skiff mail conversation)? There's still a third party involved, right?

I think it’s mostly about the fact that the mail is encrypted after being received by the Skiff mail server.

[–] MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wanted to try this but saw crypto crap. Nope, can't trust them

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Where?

[–] pruneaue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apparently people dont know that whitepapers were not invented by Satoshi 😂

[–] drwho@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

bitcoin.pdf was the first time many people first heard the term whitepaper, I'm afraid.

[–] Decentralizr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Switched a while back from proton to skiff and loving it. Also the send emails later feature is great.

[–] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

Would you mind telling me why you switched?

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What are big differences between the 2

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