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Republican former Rep. Liz Cheney on Sunday tied the “dangerous” House GOP chaos to former President Donald Trump’s behavior and the Republicans supporting him.

“I wish that it were surprising. You know, what we’ve seen is a result of really the leadership decisions that Kevin McCarthy made back after the 2020 election and certainly after January 6. And, you know, looking the other way in the face of the kind of assault on our democracy that we’ve seen from Donald Trump and his allies in the House,” Cheney told CNN’s Jake Tapper on “State of the Union.”

Her comments come amid the House GOP’s high-stakes speakership battle after McCarthy was ousted more than two weeks ago. Rep. Jim Jordan on Friday became the latest to exit the race, prompting a crowded candidate field to seek the speakership.

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[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trump is merely a symptom, the disease is the radicalization of the Republican party and it's voters.

[–] Murais@lemmy.one 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The disease is unlimited money in politics.

There are billionaires who were already radicalized to this level. They're just pouring their fortunes into bringing everyone else into their fold, too.

Remember 15 years ago when Republicans finally stopped going after LGBTQ folks, and how that slowly started to erode after Citizens United? It is not coincidental. There are evangelist billionaires whose only concern in the world is a regressive future, and that's bad for everybody.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

True, he's an extremely malignant tumor, not the underlying cancer. As with literal cancer, though, the tumor will still kill you..

[–] downpunxx@kbin.social 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not buying her newfound reverence for Democracy and Government, She and her Daddy built THIS GOP.

Institutionalized racism, misogyny, homophobia, and white Christian separatism as party platform. No matter how "conservative" Republicans claimed to be, The Southern Strategy was the core value and singular driving force for the past 60 years. MAGA isn't a symptom, it's result

[–] Syndic@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago

Exactly. She's just pissed that they've lost control over the monster they've created.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

One hundred percent. Dick Cheney was the heart of darkness in the GWB administration,

[–] thantik@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Has everyone forgotten the "Tea Party" republican debacle? That's where this all has stemmed from, and has been an effort to establish authoritarianism in the USA since forever ago.

[–] Shialac@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Has everyone forgotten Reagan? Nixon? Generally the whole history of the USA?

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think of Trump like a car accident that broke a lot of bones, and Reagan as a pervasive cancer.

[–] cedarmesa@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] crashoverride@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate to give Lindsay Graham any credit at all, but he was right. "If we elect Trump, the GOP will destroy itself and we will have deserved it"

[–] creamed_eels@toast.ooo 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was back when no one thought Trump really had a chance in hell. As soon as he saw Trump picking up steam he fell over himself hitching his flaccid, pathetic clown car right to that hate train like the mealy-mouthed bottom-feeding suction eel he is

[–] RawrGuthlaf@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

A broken clock is right once a day.

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't worry, you've underlined his hypocrisy, not given him credit.

Idk, has he ever claimed to have a spine?

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And the GOP is responsible for giving trump a platform.

This is a very destructive feedback loop.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bro her dad legitimized Sarah Palin. He let crazy into the party, can't get all shocked with somebody shits on the coats.

[–] jasondj@ttrpg.network 4 points 1 year ago

She got censured by her own party for not being crazy enough when it came to 1/6, too.

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It's not really a loop anymore, it's just who they are. You can't blame "the extremists" when they're the majority.

[–] TheLordHumungus@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's kinda funny that liz Cheney is the lesser of two evils... WTF clown world is this?

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seriously. She voted with the Trump admin 94% of the time. Its just that last 6% of disagreeing with "raw, violent treason" that apparently makes her "sane" in GOP terms.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, even though she agrees with her sith lord dad about just about everything, she's made out by liberals and their favorite media outlets to be some kind of hero of restraint and common sense!

She's pro-torture and still insists that the Iraq war was completely justified ffs!

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are no mainstream liberal media outlets. It's all oligarchs, even MSNBC, and certainly CNN.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Liberal and oligarch are far from mutually exclusive. Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are excellent examples.

I think you might be confusing leftism with neoliberalism, the latter of which is a center right to right wing ideology that the Dem leadership and most mainstream media adhere to.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not the biggest fan of Liz Cheney…. But I would definitely applaud if she sent trump an invitation to go pheasant hunting.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Naw, but its okay. He taught her to shoot

He never misses his target either.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They hated Liz Cheney because she told them the truth.

[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doing one thing at the tail end of a public career of fuckery does not a good person make.

I'm sick of people white washing her because she sucked slightly less than the rest of the GOP on this one issue.

Like her father before her, she is dangerous and awful.

[–] rosymind@leminal.space 2 points 1 year ago

I think there's a path to redemption for most people. She's young enough, there's still time

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Anyone with half a mind made this connection 8 years ago. It took her just before the last election to get there, so I'll give her the benefit of the doubt, and assume she's operating on ~1/3 mind.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

She’s not a stranger to talking BS though.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Liz Cheney grasps for relevance in recent statements.

[–] silverbax@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Well, when you get a bunch of fundamentalist homeschooled idiots led by a no-schooled idiot, you get uneducated chaos.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


And, you know, looking the other way in the face of the kind of assault on our democracy that we’ve seen from Donald Trump and his allies in the House,” Cheney told CNN’s Jake Tapper on “State of the Union.”

Her comments come amid the House GOP’s high-stakes speakership battle after McCarthy was ousted more than two weeks ago.

Rep. Jim Jordan on Friday became the latest to exit the race, prompting a crowded candidate field to seek the speakership.

That, along with the GOP’s narrow majority, has made it increasingly unclear whether any candidate will be able to secure the 217 votes needed to win the gavel on the House floor.

Several Republicans who opposed Jordan’s House speakership bid said they experienced angry calls, menacing messages and even death threats since casting their votes.

If he is, all of the things that he attempted to do but was stopped from doing by responsible people around him at the Department of Justice, at the White House Counsel’s office, he will do.


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[–] halferect@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I tie it to her and her father and decades of republican politics. She is only sour because she got kicked out but she is completely at fault for this mess too

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Did it actually take her this long to figure that out? It must be nice to be rich enough to not have to pay attention to life.