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I didn't want to direct this question to Americans specifically because, at this point, other countries have shown support to Israel in one or the other way. If my country was financing this, I would be taking the streets. Shit, I'm right now in the hospital but all I can think about is protesting anyway just to feel I did something to stop this madness.

Are you doing something about this? Are you feeling unsettled? How do you feel about all this mess?

EDIT: So, buying Chinese stuff takes the USS Gerald Ford to Gaza’s coast. Also, TIL that that chocolate my cousin gave me when she was 20 and I was 5, (delicious stuff!) made me a slavist-ish. The fact remains, this genocide is being paid and supported by taxpayers money; of course, I was hoping that most of us didn’t pay taxes wishing for this. Thank you all for your responses, some of them were hard to swallow.

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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Call your congressperson and senators. They might not listen to just you but the more people call the more their positions can be moved.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

All the evidence so far tells me that nobody is serious about stopping the violence. The only way the violence will end in this region is if the entire region is turned into a sheet of glass.

My only interest in the region is ensuring that the violence continues, until such time as an option other than "glass them all" presents itself.

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[–] mawkishdave@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

My biggest complaint is that Ukraine has to be very careful about this or they would lose their support. Israel goes all out on this and the west can't give them sorry fast enough.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you were in power in Israel, and care for its citizens, what would your steps be as reaction to what happened? Please imagine both short and long term consequences.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

and care for its citizens,

If the Israeli government cared about the people it (supposedly) represents it wouldn't be turning them into violent colonialist goons to do the west's bidding in the middle-east, would it?

You might just as well ask how to fix the Apartheid-regime without upsetting white people or fix the Nazi regime without discomforting Nazis.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I feel bad at all the suffering in the world. Some days are harder than others, but I'm fully aware I'm nobody. Nothing in the grand scheme and less than that in the grander scheme. My small actions have no direct effect on anything. All I can hope to do is be a positive, supportive person to those around me and make decisions on how I live my life that causes the least amount of suffering.

As an American my vote has little weight. Those that are meant to represent me are bought and paid for. The systems that provide my food, shelter, employment, medical care etc are all corrupt and alternatives promising fairer, better treatment of those involved are just different expressions of that same corruption. I'm a slave. I'm cattle. I'm not being bombed or shot at, because I exist as a resource to ensure my masters continue to gain.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An ongoing genocide or a genocide in hindset? And what kind? It would largely depend. Often when we give people money and they happen to use that money to pay for misdeeds, some people come back and accuse us of financing that misdeed. On the contrary, in any situation on Earth at any time, we have to be prepared for any given situation to have unconforming parts and pieces. In this situation, it's not like the government gives us a contract that says "here, sign this to show you agree to what we're going to use your taxpayer money for". If they did, I wouldn't sign, because my ethics as a relationship anarchist extend to politics, but they're not playing by relationship anarchist rules, so I become something to squeeze money out of without explanation, and it becomes less understandable how any burden is at play, especially when people start pressuring us to conform and cheat the system so-to-speak. We can try our best though.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

At any stage of this process are we being given a choice? There's the main problem to me. I agree with you that, at some point, we just should try our best. I believe this should include reclaiming some power back to the people.

[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In the US, speaking the truth about the Israel-Palestine ::cough::Palestinian genocide::cough:: war will get you cancelled by AIPAC astroturfers and useful idiots who just cancel who they’re told to cancel. That’s how they (the AIPAC, the military industrial complex, and AIPAC-run film industry..if you don’t believe me, why was Harvey Weinstein so friendly with ex-Mossad agents that he was able to use them against his opponents?) manufacture consent among normal people these days.

Additionally, 35 US states have anti-bds laws on the books punishing US citizens that choose not to buy products from Israel. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-BDS_laws In many of those US states you can be fired from government jobs for refusing to buy Israeli products in your own personal life.

[–] daddyjones@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure I think Israel is engaged in genocide - although I'm deeply unhappy with some of their military approaches.

Hamas, on the other hand, is unashamedly aiming at genocide. Their started aim is the death of all Jews and they are frequently heard chanting "from the river to the sea".

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure if it constitutes genocide yet, but it's fair to say it's going that direction. For every dead group A, group B wants to kill 10 group A people, and vice-versa. There's two ways that can stop; either they bury the hatchet or one group is entirely wiped out.

As for how I feel about my government, actually kind of hopeful. I was expecting SNAFU but it's clear the Canadian government is actually having to consider the Palestinian perspective this time around.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
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