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[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I really hate the harsh colouring of the terminals in both RpiOS and windows, it makes them look so unwelcoming and dangerous, especially for beginners.

I much prefer the colours on the KDE and GNOME terminals and wish more OSes implement them

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I totally support adopting KDE as RPi default DE

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

KDE is nice, but it's also a massive beast not very well suited to low power SBCs.

[–] Link@rentadrunk.org 1 points 1 year ago

I think the Pi 4 and Pi 5 could run it pretty well. Definitely would recommend it for older Pi models though.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

Plasma is one of the lowest resource utilization DEs available. Has been for years now. I get tired of hearing this from people that last used KDE at like version 4.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

RPis are really low spec though, I tried to run GNOME on my 3b+ and it was so laggy

[–] apprehensively_human@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Without thinking or reading to the last paragraph of this article, I went and started a dist-upgrade on my pi.

Curious now to see if it still boots after it's finished.

Edit: Oops

~ » ssh pihole@172.16.0.1
Last login: Wed Oct 11 09:38:31 2023 from 172.16.0.96
compdump:print:36: write error: no space left on device
compdump:print:42: write error: no space left on device
compdump:print:44: write error: no space left on device
compdump:44: write error: no space left on device
compdump:print:44: write error: no space left on device
compdump:44: write error: no space left on device

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One thing Debian introduced recently: apt upgrade --without-new-pkgs and they recommend that before a full dist-upgrade. I think it's made a pretty big difference in the upgrade smoothness, eliminating some possibly-breaking package upgrades.

edit: I say recently but I mean new-to-me

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I haven't tried this, but maybe ssh -t "rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*deb" or something like to clear up some space would work.

[–] apprehensively_human@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This worked! I've got it running on a 4gb SD card so it's no wonder it ballooned, but once I got apt cleaned up it's now humming along at 83% usage.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Oh, yay! I'm a helper \o/

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have plenty of space, as the OS boots from a 256 GB SSD and a very minimal install. I may try to dist-upgrade after a backup.

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

As a followup, I just changed the repos and did the apt full upgrade. Everything works beautifully. But as I said, I had a very minimal headless install without any DE.

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ah, shit... The only way to update is to reimage/reinstall... It'll take a couple of days for me.

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I did an in place upgrade to testing about a month ago on my PIs after running Bookworm on x86 VMs since it came out. Worked fine for me but my usage is pretty light compared to some as they are headless servers for me and I can rebuild really quickly if I had needed to from backups.

Today I had a shed load of updates per PI, about 160 packages so I guessed it had gone live.

Are all of the remaining LXDE programs going to be using XWayland? Or have they been ported by now?

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Why would they change the name instead of the version number? 🤦‍♂️

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that a name colission or is it based on Debian?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Based on Debian. I'm a bit confused though because I've been running a Bookworm-based version of the Raspberry Pi OS for some time (I switched from Bullseye maybe a year ago) because I thought that was the current version. Is this a second Bookworm-based release, or did I inadvertently jump the gun and run something that was pre-release until now? The Pis did receive some kind of big distribution upgrade this week, but it was from Bookworm to Bookworm.