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Oh and by the way, it seems that Trump cannot be elected Speaker due to some rules of the House that Republicans put in place about electing someone with felony indictments.

Not saying that's untrue, but source? I'd like to look it over for myself.

Edit: Found this.

Yes, the GOP has Rule 26(a) and the Democrats have Rule 4, both of which say the speaker can’t hold the seat while under indictment. However, these rules aren’t legally binding and aren’t always followed.

@logicbomb @MicroWave

This is what happens when self-entitled children get elected to office and why I hate half of my fellow citizens with such vitriol.

They shit on the floor, smeared paint on the walls and then burned down the entire house.

Their take on it?

"I can't believe you let me do that. Whats wrong with you?!?!?!"

Reading that summary just tells me that everything is for sale in congress. Votes. Elected officials. Bills. Citizens. Everyone is constantly trying to get leverage to get what they want, and the country is caught in between them.

The GOP is a political mafia whose donors believed they had whipped the Democrats into servitude. Good for democracy.. down with the Grand Old Pedophiles

My sense is that if he had felt it were at all possible for him to stay in power by working with the minority party, he absolutely would have done it - he just knew it wasn’t.

aye, i think he saw the wind was blowing against him either way, so he decided to get up and lambaste the Dems on the way out

Jeff is awesome. I hope he sticks around for a while.

“Now look what you’ve made me do!”

It's like a weight lifter who only works their biceps. They have one trick, and they're discovering the limitations therein.

They got voted out by their own party and still went for that bicep curl of "blame Democrats;" It just exposes their withering weakness when it comes to actually trying to negotiate in good-faith.

Now this is a meme worth reviving!

Yeah, it get that politics is politics, and to work together you need to sometimes separate a little bit what is said in an interview and what you can hash out on legislation on a personal level.

But damn did McCarthy go all out calling out the Democrats that weekend after ambushing them with a 70 page bill and an hour to read it. If he hoped to get Democrats support he should have put forward a better bill or kept his mouth shut over weekend.

Not only that, but he promised earlier in the year that any bill would have 72 hours for people to read through before a vote happened. So that's another promise he blew off.

You left out the most relevant part where they them blamed Obamq

they very clearly have a set of goals and a platform, and that platform is pander to the hyper-weathy donors who drive their politics.

and thanks to Citizens United (or the NRA) many of those are foreign

If you look at it from another angle, that of using any tactic necessary to destabilize the work of government and to bring it to a publicly screeching halt as unpredictably, insanely, and often as possible, AND you look at it from the POV of who would benefit from seeing that happen, it makes a lot more sense.

But the strange thing here is not that the GOP outed its own speaker (they did it to Boehner in 2015) nor that they made a clown show of it, nor even that McCarthy seemed to go out of his way to renege on enough deals to make it happen.

To me, the truly strange thing is that part of McCarthy's election, one of the things he agreed to in order to be elected as speaker, was the specific change in the rules that allowed him to be ousted with Just One Vote.

House rules change every session; in and of itself a rule change is to be expected. But not this one.

Yet this particular rule change was demanded of McCarthy before he could get enough votes to be elected, AND he agreed to it . . . AND lately, seemed to want to ensure it would work. He went to Nancy Pelosi privately asking her advice before blasting her in the press; he did everything in his power to ensure he got NO Dem assistance in keeping his seat when it would have been nothing for him to at least keep from shitting on them publicly, and he made sure to piss off even his own side throughout.

Another thing. Speakers come and go, and many Speakers leave and become Speaker again, like Sam Rayburn and Tip O'Neill. But with the Pelosi/Hoyer office evictions it's like McCarthy is not only burning his election down now, but making absolutely sure no one will ever suggest him for Speaker again.

All this is is to say that whoever/whatever was behind that highly irregular change in the rules regarding ousting the Speaker was planning this from the beginning of the session, and when the time came, McCarthy wanted out badly enough to force it to happen, and in such a way that he will never be Speaker again.

And now there are just 44 more days before the next shutdown, with aid to Ukraine up in the air, and a next-to-useless pro tempore speaker who really can't do shit in terms of directing his party or getting legislation to the floor: for most intents and purposes, the US House of Representatives right now is leaderless.

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Who on the house floor actually occupies this position. It's only rhetoric used in debate netween regular people.