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[–] drifty@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Live and let live as much as possible

[–] k_o_t@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

here for a good time, ~~not~~ and a long time 😎

[–] Sagar@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Stoics discovered it a while ago, there's no point to life.

Hindus go a step ahead and devise methods to improve balance by dharma, something which continues.

[–] ilk@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Stoics discovered it a while ago, there’s no point to life.

I am not much familiar with it, but wasn't Stoicism's life meaning about following Stoic's virtues which requires healthy interaction with other humans (ideally virtuous ones for better influences) and nature for a meaningful/flourishing life (one becoming the best possible version of oneself) achieving one's purposes/goals beyond just surviving?

As far as I know, the existentialism and cosmological nihilism philosophies that said life has no meaning from a cosmological interpretation.

https://www.philosophyoflife.org/jpl202003.pdf

Hindus ... improve balance by dharma

I will have to look at that. Thanks!

[–] Sagar@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

Yes, I'm mistaken wrt quoting Stoics, but I do believe in the "no point". There's a nice quote in Steven Weinberg's book "To Explain the world" that no pattern has been found in basic laws of physics which explain that there's an objective to life. I'm a physics major, btw.

Hinduism is very broad. I suggest you take a look at a small philosophy of Yoga by reading "Yoga Sutra by Patanjali".

[–] Helix@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you can get down, you can always get up. Life always continues until it ends. If it's not the end, it's not the end.

Sounds like a boomer's postcard version of #yolo doesn't it πŸ˜ƒ

[–] ilk@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

It is a simple and powerful idea. That's good.

[–] sgtnasty@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Its a shitty deal and I want out

[–] Helix@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

Found the millenial

[–] KnightOfOldEmpire@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)
  1. Everything I think of is just a model that tries to make sense of the world around me.
  2. Life is chaos, order is just chaos of lesser magnitude.
  3. Breathe, don't assign any weight to your emotions and thoughts, no matter how bad things seem to be, there's always tomorrow (to opt to get out).
[–] ilk@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Life is chaos, order is just chaos of lesser magnitude.

By that, do you mean life itself or events which a living being can experience?

[–] KnightOfOldEmpire@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Great question. I am referencing to the events and space I'm experiencing, now there could be some sort of unity behind the concepts and relations of life and death. Due to the lack of perception outside of basic sensors I dare not to say anything further.

On the side note, at some point in my life I've been influenced by A. Watts, On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are (the game of black and white) in particular.

[–] ilk@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I see. For me, life itself is order (or dynamical order https://www.mdpi.com/2075-1729/10/4/42), while many or most events we experience are disorder leading to our death (there are discussions on the possible Universe's entropy increase and thus disorder). So, as humans, we have to work to maintain the order and progress (see also positivism) for our self-preservation, self-replication, and desires. This seems correlated with the idea of the game of black and white, also yin and yang. One could wonder why it has to be that way; why our natural fear/panic of actual death, disorder, chaos.

[–] ganymede@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

#1 is huge, took me a long time to realise that and would make ALOT of people alot more comfortable if they realised it (imo)

[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Just do whatever.

[–] iortega@lemmy.eus 3 points 2 years ago

Aim for something. Have that in mind. Until it goes away, because you achieved it or you got bored of it (try no to do this). Then, aim for something else and repeat. Meanwhile, try to be sociable.

[–] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago
  • Acceptance and Commitment Therapy has marked me. Personally, I value kindness, strategy, knowledge/learning, and humor.
  • Something that has marked me is capitalism and its consistent threat of leaving me so poor that my quality of life goes to shit. I want to both be good enough at something so that I can eat food tomorrow but also change this fucked up system to something more humane.
  • Especially important has been Mary Midgley's The Ethical Primate and its view on empathy, as well as it's view of models, theories, and metaphors as not that different to each other (similar to another comment here).
  • In terms of evaluating models/theories/metaphors, I love Maxwell's view of validity. Validity happens when there are no validity threats that you think are important enough. Validity threats are the answers to the question "How can I be wrong?"
  • I also think a lot about Piketty's view that proposals must always consider both the current relations of power as well as the ideological and institutional content of any proposal.
  • In terms of an epistemological stance, not only has Mary Midgley changed my view, but so did my high school texts on epistemology. Unfortunately, I don't remember the texts, but I do remember the ideas. Specifically, the idea of groups of knower's and how those are many and are constantly learning and forgetting.
  • There's also Carol Dweck's growth mindset. This one is not so automatic for me, but I strive to internalize it.
  • I also think a lot about Sen's view of capabilities as freedom. I love it. I want that. If seen through Welzel's human empowerment process, it not only gives you a basic set of tools, but it also lays a map of the world currently regardingcapabilitieas, values, and what to do to change the world with the most impact.
  • I also like Epstein's Range. I wonder if I'm justifying not being a superhuman of sorts right now, but it gives me reasons to try different things and not just stick with one thing.

I'll leave it at that. Maybe some of this resonates with you. Let me know if it does! Also let me know if it totally doesn't. That's fine too :)

[–] andreasm@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Anarchy πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈπŸ…°οΈ

[–] BadSong@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

[–] SudoDnfDashY@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Happiness comes from goals, love, and expression. I strive to do as much of all three as possible.

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