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[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Connecticut is especially dicey because they have a 1:4 ratio right up to age 3; if you have 2 kids under 3, like one of the mothers in this article, you're effectively paying 1/2 of a full-time employee's salary plus your share of all of the other costs (rent, utilities, insurance, supplies, administration) associated with running a daycare.

Childcare is an absurdly labor-intensive business and I don't know how to make it work for non-wealthy people without massive subsidies.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don’t know how to make it work for non-wealthy people without massive subsidies.

Just do that. Public education is a public good that doesn't need to run in the black. Low cost childcare (which will involve some education as well) is the same. Some things can just be government provided or supported services.

[–] Moc@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never understood why people wrongly believe public services need to be profitable.

[–] Fraylor@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago
[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can I offer my point of view as an Australian and childcare worker? Don’t do that.

Go fully public, not for profit but with subsidies.

Here all the companies raise fees, which the government ends up raising subsidies for, and it just repeats every few years. Parents don’t feel the pinch because they’re still out of pocket roughly the same. But these companies are raising ever growing record profits and none of it is going to the children, their education, or the workers.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

I welcome it, but you should know we as a country are almost completely incapable of learning from other countries' experiences. We might be willing to listen to Australia's experience in doing it poorly (we like when other countries fail at doing good things), but if so it will definitely be to scrap the idea altogether rather than take the fully public route.

[–] big_slap@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

just like the post office

[–] thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It can't be fixed. The only thing that could fix it is the country changing to the point that it's a new country, and that doesn't happen peacefully when a country is this far gone.

[–] Seraph@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow, it's as if some of these funding programs were there for a reason!

"I can't understand it so we're getting rid of it" -Republicans probably

[–] Unaware7013@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bold assumption that they don't understand it, rather than just simply not caring about the subsidies or people they hurt.

[–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Carrot and the stick, except there is no carrot.

[–] DrDominate@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The beating will continue irregardless of morale.

[–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you, and please!🙏🏽

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And a bunch of 6-year-olds will become latchkey kids and will end up seriously hurting themselves or worse.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just get them a job and they'll be fine.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Help needed: now hiring all positions, starting at minimum age
Must have reliable transportation

"No one wants to work anymore."

[–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Watch “bussing kids to the meat packing plant” be the issues which gets the US to setup reliable and quick public transportation. 😆

[–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

The local meat packing plant has job openings.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 10 points 1 year ago

Childcare is something we should have funding for. You either need grandparents that live on the same street, the same house, or publicly funded daycare. Even other species, like wolves, have daycare for their children while the rest put food on the figurative table.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, but I don't believe private companies should receive public funding. Hopefully, things get as bad as these articles make it seem, and people vote for some actual publicly-funded, publicly-ran childcare services.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The government should absolutely be putting its finger on the economic scale. For example, by subsidizing green energy project research and development. Lots of stuff isn't immediately profitable, but if R&D is done by the government it can be far too slow. Subsidies help get the best of both worlds.