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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

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Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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The officer, who is Black, said he is concerned this incident will fuel the children's mistrust of police, and told Mims they need to "fix this" and find a way to "bridge the gap" between police and the children.

"We gotta fix this. You know, I don’t like this. We gotta fix this. We gotta come up with something," the officer said as he walked Mims to the police car. "Right now, I care about them babies on that bus that just got left. I care about them babies that aren’t going to be able to trust the police just because of these situations."

"I know, but If you put me in the car … it’s just making it worse," Mims said. ...

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[–] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago

Maybe if he didn't do the thing that traumatized the kids into mistrusting the police?

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago

Worried kids will have accurately assessed the situation?

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No worries; I'm teaching my kids to distrust the police, just in case stuff like this doesn't do it

[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same. Step one was no Paw Patrol in the house

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago

Paw patrol is neoliberal propaganda that is advertising government to be dysfinctional and private police force as a solution.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 48 points 1 year ago

Can't trust anyone that can legally destroy my life on a whim of emotional bullshit.

ACAB, no one should have any power.

[–] halfempty@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago

And the kids distrust of Police would be fully justified.

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

The most out of touch statement ever. That has to be an onion quote.

[–] jeremy_sylvis@midwest.social 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If only we had a not the onion community... this would be perfect.

[–] canthidium@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] jeremy_sylvis@midwest.social 9 points 1 year ago

Good to know, thank you.

[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Gee, you think? You tasered a bandleader! What was he going to do, whack you to death with his thin conductor baton?

[–] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

The thought of his mighty blows from his workout of waving a conductor baton EVERY. SINGLE. WORKDAY.

The shock wave alone would have killed.... millions.....

/satire

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You could poke an eye out with one of those things!

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

*shoots self in foot*

I'm worried there might be a hole in my foot!

[–] CompostMaterial@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Good, perhaps with enough properly placed mistrust, the pigs will start getting out in their place.

Remember folks, the people always out number those in power.

[–] skhayfa@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Then he followed this statement with a moment of silence before busting out in tears laughing and saying just kidding fuck them kids lmao.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cops be like: "We need people to trust us more" "Well then why don't you stop shooting-" BANG BANG BANG BANG "STOP RESISTING!"

[–] trumpetmouth@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

what a shocking, profound idea.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago

Well no shit

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

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[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

breeeeeeathe

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Cry me a fucking river, pig. ACAB.