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An idea without a plan. Reps have no replacement in mind to take up the Speaker position, making this threat even dumber than forcing a shutdown in the first place.
this post was submitted on 24 Sep 2023
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They don’t care. Their aim is to destroy the government, not do their jobs.
I don't think they have an aim beyond "don't do anything the Dems or the moderate Republicans want."
Next time you hear a Republican complain about partisanship choking Washington, tell them about this, about how Republicans won’t pass the most basic spending bill if they have to work with Democrats in order to do it. They will no doubt be surprised to learn about it.
And not just any spending bill. All they need to do is pass a spending bill that aligns with the bipartisan budget priorities that were JUST agreed on during the debt ceiling debates.
The GOP is fucking clown shoes these days.
priorities that were JUST agreed on during the debt ceiling debates.
That happened in the past. For conservatives, ironically, the only thing that matters is the present. The past is simply a tool, a thing to be shaped and changed and discarded if necessary in order to serve the needs of the present.
As for the future, well, it's been pretty obvious for years now that they have no concept of anything approaching a future state. The only thing that matters is now.
They won't care. How can I say that authoritatively? Because, when Obama was president, McConnell said that no matter what legislation he proposed, they would vote against it because it was more important to make sure he was a one-term president than to pass any new legislation. It didn't matter if it was something even Republicans wanted, they were going to obstruct it, and they used the filibuster way more than it had ever been used before to do it. Republicans didn't care then, and they won't care now.
They won’t believe it, they’ll just say it’s fake news and go on about Hunter Biden.
They only care if Democrats vote with them. That's partisanship in their eyes. The road doesn't go the other way. Republicans work Democrats is political suicide.
And they don't care about the double standard or the hypocrisy. But they know that the Democrats do.
And Republicans use that against Democrats at every election.
You only need one person to call for the vote to oust, so he doesn't matter there.
You need a majority to vote him out. There's already a majority to vote him out if you count rebellious Republicans and all Democrats, and there is a clear majority to keep him if the Democrats choose to keep him. So he doesn't matter there.
Structurally, as long as 5 Republicans are against McCarthy, calling a vote to oust just lets Democrats pick if they want McCarthy or whoever the 5 pick. An incremental one person on the team with the 5 is meaningless.
Well the dems will bail out whoever it is that has the best offer.
Which basically means that if they pull the trigger they cede even more concessions to the dems.
So, I’d like to think they’re not that dumb, but then, they like to prove me wrong.
I thought you don't need a majority to vote him out, but to vote him in.
It's one person needed to file a 'motion to vacate' but THAT just triggers a House vote with a majority needed to remove him as Speaker.
Some people assume Democrats will always vote to remove a Republican Speaker and thus you would only need 5 Republicans to remove McCarthy, but while that might often be true it isn't (necessarily) when a government shutdown is on the way.
I’m starting to suspect far right Republicans aren’t serious about policy.
Turns out that they spent so much time obstructing that when they actually have even a modicum of power, they just obstruct themselves.
“How dare he attempt to govern!”
Was there a shutdown under trump? Because I hope the democrats takes some time to highlight wich party keeps shutting the country down like children throwing a tantrum.
Just the longest in US history, brought on by funding disputes over his stupid wall
TBF, the Republicans had control of the Presidency, House, and Senate when that started...
Definite point!
So you're saying it was all Mexico's fault! /s
Oh yeah, all Mexico had to do was PAY for the damn thing 😁
Several iirc
GOP always did promise to show us how useless and unproductive the government could truly be if we’d just let them. The house has been giving a great Iive demo lately.
Good. Let these traitor asscunts eat each other.
do you want hyper partisan politic, because this how you get hyper partisan politics
Who does this tim Allen looking motherfucker think he is?
Republican civil war let's fucking go
Cooperate with those that are my neighbors, my enemies? NEVER! This country must be and remain in a civil war! I will. It be happy until neighbors kill neighbors, until fathers kill their sons, until daughters kill their mothers! Hate hate, hate!
And then I'll rule over the ashes and it will be peaceful.