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[–] flag@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hope they can produce more ammo!

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

not with the energy prices they have now

[–] flag@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They're already high enough for things like steel mills to start shutting down, and once the pipeline reserves Europe filled up from Russia during the summer run down, then it's LNG prices from there on out https://oilprice.com/Metals/Commodities/European-Stainless-Steel-Mills-Are-Closing-Due-To-Energy-Crisis.html

[–] flag@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

yeah but Europe doesn't need steel mills to produce ammo, no?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Europe needs working industry to produce ammo, and steel mills are certainly important for producing all kinds of weapons and parts for the military. Steel mills aren't the only thing shutting down. It's a systemic problem https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-04/german-energy-reprieve-too-little-too-late-to-save-factory-jobs

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

I'll wager that the pretext of the war will now be used to dismantle the social safety net in Europe and create mass austerity to feed the war industry. European capitalists will be thrilled because social safety net is what sets the standard for the quality of working conditions. As we see in US, when you create horrific conditions for the unemployed then people will be willing to accept slightly less horrific conditions at work.