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Ukrainian forces have broken through in Verbove, top general says | CNN (www.cnn.com)

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 11 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

“On the left flank [near Verbove] we have a breakthrough and we continue to advance further,” Oleksandr Tarnavsky told CNN Senior International Correspondent Frederik Pleitgen during an interview on Friday, though he conceded his troops were moving slower than anticipated.

Ukrainian forces claimed in recent weeks to have penetrated the “first line” of Russian strongholds in the Zaporizhzia region, in a sign that Kyiv was edging closer to Moscow’s sprawling network of fortified trenches along the southern front.

However, Tarnavsky told CNN he believed the big breakthrough of the counteroffensive would be if Ukraine could take Tokmak, a strategic hub for Russia, which is its first major target in its fight in the south.

When asked about rising resistance in the West to continuing weapons supplies to Ukraine, especially in the US, where some have voiced doubt about Kyiv’s chances of success, Tarnavsky said he respected their view.

He said Wagner fighters still pop up “here and there” on the front line following the death of the group’s former boss Yevgeny Prigozhin, who died in a plane crash last month after leading a failed insurrection that posed the biggest threat to the rule of Russian President Vladimir Putin in decades.

Ukraine recently launched a missile attack on the headquarters of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol, in the Crimean peninsula, which was illegally annexed by Moscow’s forces in 2014.

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[–] elouboub@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Is it realistic that they end the war before the winter?

[–] Skua@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

No, but I don't think that was ever the plan. The counteroffensive can succeed in a few different ways - cutting off supply lines to the occupied areas in the south, attriting Russian forces enough to force another unpopular round of conscription, or a major breakthrough like the Kharkiv offensive - but none of them are war-ending by themselves. It's possible that Russia has a sudden change of heart and withdraws if it suffers some particularly tough kind of loss or Putin dies, but it seems very unlikely to me.

Sending Ukraine things like more modern jets and tanks has only started this year, which is clearly an intention to continue supporting Ukraine for a while. Nobody's sending someone a fighter jet if they think it'll no longer be needed in a month or two, after all

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Highly doubtful. This thing will likely drag on for years unless something unexpected happens. Russia has been doing a piss-poor job, but they still have plenty of natural resources and people to throw in the meat grinder. The sanctions are bleeding them, but they still have plenty of oil to sell and there’s plenty of buyers still. Plus, if the Republicans and other Russian-compromised groups in other countries are able to get their way, they’ll cut off foreign support to the Ukrainians.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

No way. There's too many towns and cities left, each of which is it's own puzzle.

But, if they can fix the Frontline far ahead enough, they can operate jets and missile strikes and certain artillery against anywhere in the occupied territory all winter

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Absolutely not, unfortunately.

The absolute best they can hope for by the end of the year if everything goes amazingly well would be to reach the coast via their current salient and thoroughly establishing themselves, cutting off the land bridge to Crimea and the rest of Russia's forces South of Kherson.

I don't expect this to happen at this point unfortunately, but that's what they're trying to accomplish.

To be clear, Crimea itself is not a location they could hope to take back by force without a gigantic increase in the size and loadout of every branch of their military, think of it as a fortress whose land bridge is barely passable, and heavily fortified.

A much better strategy, which they're going for, is to try to cut Crimea off from Russia as much as possible and keep them besieged, while they restore their pre-2022 borders to the east.

I have no idea how they intend to eventually retake Crimea, unfortunately at the current stage that seems like wishful thinking. But perhaps if they can take back and hold the rest of their territory, which isn't unrealistic at all, they could slowly, very slowly, amass the required resources to attempt such a difficult campaign.

What the Russians would be doing with that time... I don't know. Surely continuing to press the borders, bomb cities, and shore up Crimean defences.

I see no end to this war in the coming years, unfortunately. Not without compromise from one side, and neither wish to compromise (not that I'm suggesting they should, just observation).