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[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Intends to focus on its own defense"

Defense from what?! The fuck they think ukraine was doing all this time?

[–] Pringles@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's elections next week. As soon as those are over they'll be based af again

[–] Ooops@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If that's the case, then we should also keep in mind that they are in fact not "based af" but just acting like it out of their own oppotunistic reasons.

[–] smollittlefrog@lemdro.id 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't everyone doing that?

[–] Ooops@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Maybe... but even then there are competent ones not getting caught and those so clearly running only on populism that it's not even surprising when they screw up... again.

[–] magmaus3@szmer.info 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Varyag@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a pretty close Polish friend, and honestly most of waht I hear implies that Poland never was anything close to "based". Their government is on a whole new level of stupidity and cringe that other countries can only dream of. Always expect them to do the opposite of what is reasonable.

[–] PeWu@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Our president already proved that he has ability to make someone curl their fingers out of cringe.

[–] Hubi@feddit.de 23 points 1 year ago

Just piss party things

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s kinda obviously the PIS party just being fucking stupid

[–] PeWu@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago
[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Poland's politics are both fascinating and horrifying to watch.

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Teile und herrsche!

Wer will ein Stückchen Polen?

[–] magmaus3@szmer.info 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

it's the (cash-for-)visa ~~incident~~ scandal isn't it

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Poland banned imports of Ukrainian grain and does not intend to deliver more weapons to Ukraine.

[–] anewbeginning@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Pure electoralism. Once they secure themselves they’ll soften their position.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Pure electoralism. Once they secure themselves they’ll soften their position.

I think you overestimate the rationality of government decision-making.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

they already did

Kyiv-Warsaw talks continue in bid to resolve trade dispute

Ukraine’s agricultural minister, in a phone call with his Polish counterpart, has agreed to work out a solution to a trade dispute that is in the interests of both countries, the Ukrainian agriculture ministry said on Thursday.

A US official who recently visited Poland dismissed suggestions that Mateusz Morawiecki’s comments were a sign of cracks in Western solidarity with Ukraine.

The official, who spoke to Reuters on condition of anonymity about the Polish prime minister’s comments, said:

We’re all human and there are moments of tension... But that doesn’t mean that there’s going to be some dramatic shift in alliance unity or even Poland’s fundamental position and determination to support Ukraine for as long as it takes.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/sep/21/russia-ukraine-war-live-updates-zelenskiy-biden-kyiv-kharkiv-cherkasy-death-toll-strikes

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Why would they? Ukraine did its job of bleeding Russia militarily so it stops being a threat to Poland. Now they can discard them and the more gets destroyed the easier for Poland to sweep in afterwards and get some pieces of the cake when rebuilding.

The polish government never cared about Ukraine.

[–] magmaus3@szmer.info 3 points 1 year ago

The thing I mentioned was about Cash-for-visa scandal

[–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Kompromat...

Get ready for the Polish government to become buddies with Russia.

[–] ahornsirup@artemis.camp 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No Kompromat needed, just PiS doing PiS things. Poland banned imports of Ukrainian grain (because PiS has a largely rural support base and the farmers don't appreciate the competition), Ukraine filed a complaint with the World Trade Organisation, so now the Polish government is throwing what in political science is called a tamper tantrum.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Poland will have to pantomime anti-Russian rhetoric for domestic consumption, even if it aligns 100% with the Putinists. They can ramp up anti-German rhetoric (reopening the war reparations issue, making noises about “gender ideology” and “cultural Marxism” coming from across the border) and make the woke godless Germans the primary enemy of Holy Poland, though they still have to pretend to maintain defensive hostilities against the great bear to the east, even as they adopt the same policies and attitudes.

[–] Ooops@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't forget the always popular narrative of the EU being just Germany's 4th Reich trying to destroy Poland as the only hurdle in their way to share control over Europe between them and their Russian buddies...

(Yes, I'm not exaggerating. That's all from actual quotes in the last 12 or so months...)

[–] lol3droflxp@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Among the neighbours of Germany, Poland is just the most annoying (remember, Fr🤮nce is also a neighbour).

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

If they weren't enemies they'd already be best buddies. They share the same ideological hatred.

[–] DontMakeItTim@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[–] mojo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Poland has never been based on anything, it's a country

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

based on soil; based on europe; based on earth

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

My understanding of poland goes like -ultra religous -xenophobes -every once in a while "you know, polish border should go from Edinburgh to Beijing" -germany must pay us -ruined the fucking Oder -second most un-based EU country