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Total noob to the sport, but a massive stats head. How would you order these? Do one or more stand out above the rest?

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[–] TheAndrewBrown@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of these simple stats don’t do a good job of determining team success. A team could have an amazing offense but a terrible defense and be unsuccessful and the other way around. They also could have amazing stats on both sides but maybe they’ve played garbage teams so they end up losing most of the rest of their games.

Generally advanced stats are better for stuff like that. I know 538 and Football Outsiders has stuff for that, it might be worth looking into those.

[–] hactar42@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The old saying is offense sells tickets and defense wins championships. Although football, more than most sports, is truly a team effort.

Just look at the 2010 Chargers. They had the #1 offense and defense and didn't make the playoffs because of their special teams.

Secret Base did a great video on them: https://youtu.be/UAL5X3TRA2A?si=aAsLLZ4Im5EsWsNo

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The chargers have been just masters of being statistical anomaly for a while it seems like. I remember like 4 seasons ago they lost a ridiculous amount of games they had like a 90%+ statistical chance of winning.

[–] coltorl@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

Punting. Punt attempts and avg net punting yards.

Special teams wins you games, but if they’re out there often, then you aren’t winning games.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Under drive averages, points per drive is the best indicator of offensive performance from any of those. Comparing turnovers vs takeaways is OK too.

Advanced stats are better.

[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

i would guess punting because that's based on how many times they had to turnover the ball to the other team without scoring