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[–] suckmyspez@lemmy.world 111 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Relegated? The iPhone has always had USB 2.0 speeds…

[–] Player2@sopuli.xyz 36 points 1 year ago (28 children)

That has been trash for pretty much a decade at this point

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[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 78 points 1 year ago (1 children)

so very apple to punish it's own users because they have too many old components they need to use up, but if you're paying for PRO you get actual 2023 modern USB.

so very, very apple.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Bro what modern it’s USB 3.0 lmao

[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 46 points 1 year ago

USB 3.0 is already 15 years old.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Lately the base model is usually last year’s old pro processors and micro controllers. Next year the base 16 will probably have the faster IO if the trend continues.

[–] irish_link@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Completely agree. No company redesigns all of their products each year. They redesign the top tier and then its shifts downward the next year. GPU, CPU, Motherboard, hell even cars do this. Not all models included Carplay and Android Auto when it launched, just the high end cars did, but now all of them do.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

USB IO speed aside, Apple's phones have gotten to the point where 3 and 4 year old chipsets are still VERY performant. They now have the wiggle room to put more bleeding edge silicon in top tier phones, be ok with smaller yields at first, and scale fabrication over the year.

That all being said, given that everyone was going to been eyeing this USB port, they probably should've taken one on the chin and changed the stupid IO speed. Although, the people complaining about this probably aren't Apple's core market anyway. So maybe they were right.

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[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 74 points 1 year ago (8 children)

One last little 'f you for making us do this'

Whatever, still better than lightning.

[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they don't care because apple punishes the poors at every opportunity anyway. soldered on ram & ssd's on their laptops for fucks sake

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Apple’s not the only one with soldered on components.

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[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This is why companies like Apple are malicious.

[–] Soulyezer@lemmy.world 92 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Or because the base iPhone 15 uses last year’s Pro chip which didn’t have a USB3 controller.

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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 33 points 1 year ago

More like standard capitalism. The usb c connectors are not slower then the lightning connectors so its not like they made it worse. They simply refused to make it better.

A bit like Nvidia continuing to maken better gpu chips but refusing to have them release with a more VRAM.

If course in a way, all for profit-companies are malicious. Extracting surplus value from workers and such.

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago (8 children)

So - in your opinion - any company shipping a USB 2 device is 'malicious'?

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[–] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It does feel kind of spiteful. But honestly, it is surprisingly difficult to find USB 3 USB-C cables anyway. Most of them are USB 2 unless you spring for Thunderbolt cables.

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No they're not? At least when I check amazon or any other online retailer, USB-C cables are almost always USB 3.0 or higher. Only the ultra cheap ones are not.

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[–] NumerousGeorg@geddit.social 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (24 children)

Welcome to the Android world where even good smartphones worth 400 $ only support USB 2.0

[–] Thann@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

My cheap android phones have had usb3 for like 5 years =\

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[–] irish_link@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I love how these articles happen and are posted and everyone flames at apple.

This isn’t that different than the Galaxy note 20 not having ultra wide band but the Ultra version does.

All companies do this, otherwise why have different tiers or different models.

Don’t get me wrong, I am thrilled they are finally using USB-C. I enjoyed the lightning when if first came out. The only cord at the time you could plug in and there was no up or down, it just want in no matter what orientation. Apple just wanted to charge everyone to use it and they screwed up with that. Now there is a full standard for every device, this is good.

Apple fan boys and Android fan boys need to chill out. It’s just a phone, not an allegiance.

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I didn't know what ultra wide band was because i never heard of it and...wow! Are you seriously comparing a very high tech stuff that only started to being added to high-end smartphones since 2019 (i still don't know what it's for) to apple forcefully crippling the speed of usb to what it was more than 10 years ago ? That's whack ! I can't even start to understand your thoughts process. Other famous company did something that can be considered similar if you tilt your head hard enough ( to stop blood from flowing to the brain that is ) so you see ? the company i love isn't fucking me sideways like y'all are saying. WTF !??

[–] irish_link@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

It seems to be that you are misunderstanding the entire tech concept. There is no "downgrading" the A16 chip from last year’s pro model is the USB controller. They simply aren't upgrading that chip. It seems that you didn't read the article and thus didn't know the processors for the phone are what are controlling the USB. There is no "forcefully crippling the speed of usb" its a simple matter of taking last years top tier chip and putting it in the Second tier phone this year. This is how tech works. You don't redesign all your products, you redesign the top tier and then move those advancements down the chain next year.

The comparison was not about a cable vs wifi. It was about the chip on the device as that is the crux of the situation and the pointed out almost at the top of the article.

No need to be rude or insulting with the blood flowing to the brain comment. Again this seems to be fan boy attitude to shit on "the other side" and be insulting to win the argument. I have no stake in this other than pointing out that people are freaking out and getting upset because they didn't redesign the phone and architecture for $X to increase the speed of something almost no IOS user even uses.

An honest question, do you actually use your cord the transfer data from your phone or tablet? Personally I never use the cord on my Galaxy Tab, It easier to use Wi-Fi and a shared folder on my NAS.

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[–] Polar@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don't think it's fair to compare UWB and USB 2.

One is already an old ass standard. I don't even know what devices aren't USB 3 anymore. You actively have to go out of your way to be a dick and downgrade your phone to USB 2.0

Not to mention the price difference is literally negligible.

Apple is just being assholes here. They already downgrade the non pro by removing cameras and whatnot. Touching the USB speed is a special kind of fuck you.

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[–] Virkkunen@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This isn’t that different than the Galaxy note 20 not having ultra wide band but the Ultra version does.

Are we considering that UWB is as prominent as USB and you'll be using it almost daily with a multitude of devices?

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[–] egeres@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Really apple? And they did all that mother nature bullshit with octavia spencer while it was europe who forced them to use a universal connector and stop polluting the world with useless pathetic cables

[–] p000l@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago

A $5 Pen drive transfers data faster. Some day, Apple will be able to figure how to do this in a multi hundred dollar phone. Need more MBAs.

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