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I don't know how else to describe it. I'll start vaping, there's like 20-30 minutes of comeup, 5-30 minutes of euphoria, then everything just feels dull? like hazy and blah. If I vape less, there's less of the 'blah' feeling, but then reality feels harsh and stark.

i get the same thing with edibles generally, 1h comeup, 30-60 minutes of bliss, then 2-3 hrs of gray

anyone experience this; any help?

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[–] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Unpopular opinion here but if you are using cannabis regularly it isn't supposed to get you high. Yes you might need lifted for a bit but it's really not an extreme "I'm high" experience. If you are using it medicinally, that's what you want. The ability to use it and get on with you day (or go to sleep, I'm my case).

Chasing a high is going to lead to disappointment. You'll develop a tolerance and keep using more and this will cause the negative effects people worry about instead of making your life better.

If you had one beer every night with dinner, the first beer you've ever had in your life would be magical, the edges of the world round off, your friends are funnier, you spouse is extra alluring. But have one beer with dinner every night for a week or two and it's just a beer. You have a mild, mild buzz.

Cannabis is just like that. I mean it's better than beer because it helps with real issues like inflammation, possibly anxiety, etc.

Edit: forgot to say if you want to get high, just use it once a week or so. If you need to use to daily, do so, but when you want to get high have more, but occasionally. You can also stick with a less potent strain day to day or mix in CBD flower with it .

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Seconded, I use throughout the day for symptom management from a long-term injury, and I only know it still works because my symptoms go away. To get a high, I have to bong rip such an egregious amount that my throat feels raw. Unfortunately, edibles don’t work on me.

[–] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Curious if you have tried the seltzer drinks before

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I’m not even aware of cannabis seltzer drinks. I would try it for science, but nothing ingestible has ever worked for me, including tinctures, etc.

[–] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd be curious. Apparently the way the cannabinoids are extracted is different from normal edibles. The drink effects only take 15 minutes or so consistently vs edibles.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, if I find any here, I’ll certainly give it a shot. Being restricted to smoking only is a pain in the ass sometimes when I need to dose then deal with people or go on a long flight. Can’t even use more moderate smelling vape solutions because resins and distillates both tear up my lungs for some reason. Like I’m inhaling sandpaper.

[–] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good luck. A friend of mine had some shipped to me so I can try them. Shipping is expensive though..

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

huh, not sure if having something shipped to me is even an option.

[–] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah depends on your state law, but it's all covered under the 2018 farm bill. No dispensary or medical cards needed.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is for product containing thc?

[–] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting. Thanks for putting that on my radar. I’ll look into it, maybe my dispensary would know something about it or any state issues. Hawaii very well could have its own hurdles with everything coming by plane or shipping ports.

[–] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Np hope it works out for ya.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I'm convinced edibles don't work, period, and everyone who says they do is a liar. I've had a dozen or so all from different sources and never once did I notice any effect, always taking more then the recommended amount, if not several multiples more than recommended.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

I suspect it has to do with metabolism, we just break it down too fast or something. I also process alcohol pretty quickly for likely the same reason.

Only way I know for certain edibles work for anyone is when a chef friend and I made some potent ganja butter and then brownies. She was so high it was messing with her speech, and I was essentially still the designated driver until smoking some the usual way.

[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are missing a liver enzyme that turns THC into 11-Hydroxy-THC, and that is why you feel nothing. More and more people like this are popping up in social media.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Oh nice, something to look up, thanks man!

[–] ethman42@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This isn’t a mass lie like Santa Claus. We really do get high from edibles.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

It was mostly a joke, but I really can't seem to find any that work for me like any other method of taking in THC does. Tried tons of gummies and many different pastry types.

[–] norske@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Weed distillate and live resin vapes get you high, but they don’t get you HIGH. At least that’s been my experience. Vapes to me are all head feeling but nothing body. Edibles are the opposite, good body high, but not much of a head high. My favorite is smoking flower. Best of both worlds! I do want to try a dry herb vape.

The temp at which op is vaping almost certainly plays a role in this experience.

I find short heady highs with lower temps. When you kick the temp up it loosens some of the heavier 'noids that add to the body feel. This can happen with the same flower or trates in 2 different devices, or temps.

I recommend op try pushing temps up a bit to get the longer term effects they desire.

I'm a dry herb vape mfg who has spent a lot of time observing this phenomenon :)

It's also worth noting for op, vape high, smoke high, and eddie high are all different. Eddies metabolize into a stronger, more psychoactive substance than vaping or smoking. With smoking, part of your experience is the toxins you just inhaled. With vaping, you're only getting the noids, which is why some folks don't feel as messed up from vaping, initially. It's a change. But it's better in the long run. Cleaner, longer lasting effects when done right.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tolerance. Take 3 days to not smoke, which I personally think is extremely difficult, so I understand it's a tall order, but after that you'll get blasted.

[–] ethman42@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This was forced on me recently. Had to go to another country for work. Had to leave the vape at home. It was a rough 8 days, but it fully reset my tolerance

[–] johan@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What makes stopping (temporarily) difficult for you? I find that when I'm home and have easy access I smoke almost out of habit. But when I'm holiday or just busy with stuff I have no problem at all not smoking.

[–] Zoldyck@discuss.online 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Addiction. A lot of people say, or think, or pretend cannabis isn't addictive, but for many people it can be addictive as fuck.

[–] deadtom@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It isn't physically addictive, but it can be mentally so. Your body isn't going to start eating itself if you don't get it, but you will probably feel anxious and maybe feel cravings if you break the habit though.

On a trip to Singapore and surprisingly not having as much issue as I thought based on my normal consumption. Gonna be fun to see how it goes when I get back.

[–] Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure if you consume it every day it's also physically addictive, speaking from experience. I used to smoke daily for a while, every evening, and if I didn't smoke it took me like 1h+ to fall asleep, got some cold sweat as well... not super bad, but something I'd like to avoid, so I only do it weekends now.

[–] ethman42@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Honestly, it was just the first day. And a good deal of that was likely jet lag. I was fine after the first full day.

[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You need to level up your spell slots to cast "Get High" more than once per day.

Take a tolerance break? Try a difference method of consumption? Sacrifice to Shel-Moloth, Dark Crab of the Ocean? You got me I don't really know I've been reading too much lovecraft.

[–] wolfshadowheart@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

What vaporizer?

[–] Juggs@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

It sounds like you have access to different strains, so try mixing them up.

I have a lower THC sativa for mornings, which gets me thru the day. I have a hybrid for around 5pm, which is like having a few beers after work. Then I have a strong indica for bedtime.

I've been on prescription opiates for years for a bunch of conditions, and while I do get a buzz from it, it's not what I'm chasing and it settles quickly.

Also, worth considering how you smoke it. I vape in the morning and in the evening, and then a pipe before bed. Each hits differently, and works well for me. Might work for you too.