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[–] cloud@lazysoci.al 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They come right out and say they can collect and share your sexual activity, health diagnosis data, and genetic information

Dude what the fuck

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I would like to know specifically how a car company can collect sexual activity and genetic information. The genetic information thing really sounds like FUD.

[–] ahal@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it FUD if it's a direct quote from Nissan's privacy policy?

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm sure it's there and I'm sure they wish they could get that info. I just don't see how they could beyond making some pretty wild inferences.

[–] someguy@lemmyland.com 6 points 1 year ago

Maybe from genetic testing companies that sell that to data brokers, which a car company could enrich your personal information with?

[–] valkyrie@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not to mention some of the other information listed like sleep patterns. How do they get that data?

[–] Daevan@feddit.it 8 points 1 year ago

Android auto maybe

[–] sp00nix@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you not nap while commuting?

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I've been asleep since 2019

[–] jepolitsch@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

I could see certain accessibility settings of cars such as color blind settings, bold text, even physical personalization ordered for the car based on hereditary or not genetic conditions falling into that category.

Some companies will find that information useful for ads I suppose.

[–] FarraigePlaisteach@kbin.social 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As mentioned in another comment, the link takes us to the parent page where you can choose a brand (and presumably then, a model) of car to learn about.

I noticed that Mazda isn't included among their brands so I sent a suggestion, thank you! I didn't know that they provided privacy support for so many devices - they even have the Nintendo Switch in there and all kinds of categories: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/

[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I also noticed Mazda wasn't on there. Doesn't even come up in a search. Does that mean they're more respectful of privacy?

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 29 points 1 year ago

It means that they haven't reviewed them.

[–] 1chemistdown@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

No, it means they haven’t investigated them. If they had they would include them on the list and tell you the details.

[–] far_university1990@feddit.de 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What would you need to do to make a car dumb? Remove all connectivity chips? ECU swap? Flashing custom software?

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] far_university1990@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Thats the easy route, but i had hoped it would be possible to do something with newer cars. Looks like old ones might fall out of favor of laws in the future.

[–] chalupapocalypse@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'd think just unhooking the antenna would do it, it might stop working eventually though

[–] Rouxibeau@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

My LEAF has a 3G radio. It's useless now. If it were still connected, I could yank it; you can have any shop do the same.

[–] Acters@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Usually, the efficient goal oriented are dumb enough like ebikes. I am guessing investing in Aptera would be a great option for a to b daily driving. Aside from that, custom computer to control the car is the most logical step until you get into electric or hybrid type vehicles where the aftermarket is not big enough. Removing wireless connectivity fuses are another option but I don't know if a service shop will connect the fuses defeating your privacy. Also a phone app will always be anti privacy. Make sure to get products without apps or wireless connection capabilities as manufacturers start preventing you from using products without registering it with an app first.

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Feel like it could be as simple as removing a fuse (or fuses) in some cases.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] sp00nix@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Joins in 1978, 1987, 1990, 1992 Volvo. I have a problem.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If that's a problem, I'd hate to see the solution

[–] sp00nix@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Well I also have 2 Toyotas and boarding a 67 crowd mower

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've got a 2005 Subaru forester. No privacy problems so far

[–] Damage@feddit.it 4 points 1 year ago

My car is a 2015 and I'm in no hurry to replace it, but I can't help but worry about the future. I like replacing the head unit in my cars, and it's going to be a worse and worse option as time goes on, potentially resulting in losing actually useful features.

[–] Harpsist@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

2009 vibe.

Other then the 420 error. My car doesn't tell anyone anything.

[–] bignuts700@pawb.social 8 points 1 year ago

All of them are voted super creepy lol

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Somewhat related but does anyone have any recommendations for aftermarket gps trackers (not navigation)? I drive maybe once a week so I'm looking for something with a battery life longer of 10+ days

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Look for any of them that wire directly to your battery and don't need to be charged. A GPS pinger uses very little energy so you shouldn't need to worry about much battery drain

[–] lostwonder@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Found another video about privacy in cars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIryvRwxp9A

[–] vitriolix@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

think of all the trashed, cluttered garages those sensors scan and photograph every day