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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The price tag on that therapy, for one.

Legitimately, it's one of sickest jokes about this country, that you can spend an hour with a therapist working on improving your mood, walk out of the session, and have it immediately undone when the receptionist tells you what the copay is.

[–] wintermutehal@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is so crazy to me. Many mental health places near me won‘t even take insurance. I got an estimate on getting tested for ADHD the other day at 5k. This was after the year wait to even hear back.

[–] TheRagingGeek@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I had the same problem with my provider that tested my children, the provider recently stopped taking insurance so they quoted me 11000 dollars to do an autism/ADHD battery of tests so I had to decline, I need to eventually get back around to calling around and see if I can find some luck

[–] Moonguide@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

At that point, would going to mexico be better? I mean, goddamn, 5k. I got mine done for the equivalent of 500usd.

[–] TheaoneAndOnly27@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100% agree that it's fucked up, but also you should check on if there's some sort of a community counseling program. I know where I live they do community counseling and it's sliding scale down to $5. I really wish that was more places

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Those community counseling programs tend to be absolutely overwhelmed and have very long wait times.

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I wonder if it could have anything to do with this apocalyptic hellscape we’re living in courtesy of the ruling class?

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

No, it's probably personal failings of a few hundred million people. The systems are great

[–] transientpunk@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago

Broadly gestures at everything

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 1 year ago

I had a call with a government agency recently about benefits. I was asked why I didn't seek therapy.

I told the truth. My benefits did not include therapy. It was not financially viable for me to seek therapy.

Government worker had nothing in their script for that and simply said nothing and moved on to the next question.

It is maddening that we as a society are expected to play dumb about the shortcomings of our government.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I submit that's it's impossible for us to have reached peak therapy when there's such a shortage of mental health professionals available.

[–] TheaoneAndOnly27@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's worse is that those of us who are qualified, have the degrees, were working before, and are reentering the field, are stuck behind delayed bureaucratic bullshit. Like all of my stuff has gone through, and it's been 6 months. I can't start working until they take it to a board meeting and then vote on approving all of the applications at once. It's Fucking stupid.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, this is infuriating, along with your struggle to get paid by insurance companies, etc, or make other such tough decisions that may make you available to fewer patients because of similar bureaucratic tape. It’s all a mind fuck for everyone involved. Peak therapy, my ass.

[–] TheaoneAndOnly27@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh man, exactly! The public insurance (here it's oregon health plan) The amount of bullshit you have to go through for 1/3 of the reimbursement you'd get from a private insurance or a cash pay makes it so there are less and less providers who are willing to jump through the hoops. I once got a group note kicked back from insurance because "no group starts exactly on time". The group was at 5:00, person was there before hand.... Group of 12 people. Another time I marked all as attending at 5:01, but nope. That got all kicked back because there was "no way everyone showed up at the same time". So I tried explaining to my supervisor how absurd it was because I can only bill for the group time 5-6 pm, so would every client have to show up late, and not all leave at 6:00 pm as well?

So in 2021 I said fuck it, I need a year off.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I clenched my jaw so hard reading that asinine situation that I felt my ears pop. Just unreal.

Maybe “peak therapy” means they’ve created peak conditions for everyone to need therapy. That would make sense.

Therapists needing therapy from trying to provide therapy to others. The circle of therapy🎵🎵

[–] stepbro@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

You forgot the 🎶🎵🎶

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Affordable, quality therapists, at least.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, yes you are right, but even if you don’t narrow it down and are willing to talk to whomever will listen, there’s still not enough. Can take months to get an 1st time appointment in some places.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago
[–] Conyak@lemmy.tf 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because of late stage capitalism and climate dread. There is no longer hope for the future.

[–] Gargantu8@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Agree with your two concerns wholeheartedly but never appropriate to give up hope. Hang in there please!

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think or of absolutely reasonable to give up hope on climate change. Its too late to stop it. We are now living in it.

[–] Gargantu8@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's a fair point for sure. It's definitely going to get a lot worse and there's no changing that (just the extent I suppose). However, there's still always hope no matter what.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've always appreciated a short dialogue from the show Monk.

Monk: I had hope. Isn't hope the worst?
Natalie: No, Mr Monk. Hope is a good thing.
Monk: You're very young.

[–] Gargantu8@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for sharing that's admittedly still relatable despite my opinion!

[–] jantin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Hang in there" is not therapy, to me it's infuriating if anything. I can list several well-grounded in reality reasons which made me lose hope. Random phrases are not changing either these reasons or my ability to adapt to them. At some point "hope" feels like self-delusion. But it's nice to know others are not there yet.

[–] Gargantu8@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Hmm. Well "hang in there" sure made me feel good when I heard it during cancer treatment when I at times thought all hope was lost, but here I am.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Peak" implies it is currently at its maximum and will go down from here. That is incorrect. We still need more mental health services for people and for those services to be affordable.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah what an insane false premise. Setting aside the US, which is a shitshow, almost no countries with publicly funded healthcare include mental healthcare under that system.

[–] CarlsIII@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Maybe because they jumped the gun on declaring things “peak therapy.”

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We haven't even begun to peak. So many people are entering the field. So much more awareness and acceptance of mental health is being cultivated. So many more people are going to be getting care. We haven't peaked. We haven't even begun to peak.

[–] cowfodder@unilem.org 6 points 1 year ago

Because gestures to everything

[–] Hobbes@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Republicans and climate change and income inequality.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

This seems like bipartisan greed, tbf.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Because it's all nonsense.

[–] WillardHerman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Because, there is no such think as sanity.