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California moved closer to becoming the first U.S. state to ban caste discrimination after a bill to outlaw the practise passed the California Assembly late on Monday.

U.S. discrimination laws ban ancestry discrimination but do not explicitly ban casteism. California's legislation targets the caste system in South Asian immigrant communities by adding caste to the list of categories protected under the state's anti-discrimination laws.

The bill was introduced and authored by state Senator Aisha Wahab, an Afghan American Democrat, in March. An earlier version of it passed the state Senate before undergoing revisions.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Good. It's ridiculous that particular horrible cultural practice in India gets carried over to the so-called "land of the free." Hopefully this will make things more free for Indian-Americans who would be considered of lower castes in India.

[–] Pat12@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

pretty shitty that this is even a thing we have to address

[–] quindraco@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Does anyone know how caste discrimination is usually accomplished? Unlike with racism or sexism, the basis of the bigotry shouldn't be remotely visible, and unlike bigotry based on sexuality or religion, it's not even determinable from the person's knowledge: everyone knows what they're attracted to and their own philosophical views, but almost no-one knows who their great-great-great grandparents were. It seems a curious thing to be bigoted based on something so challenging to assess.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

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[–] Pat12@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Does anyone know how caste discrimination is usually accomplished? Unlike with racism or sexism, the basis of the bigotry shouldn’t be remotely visible, and unlike bigotry based on sexuality or religion, it’s not even determinable from the person’s knowledge: everyone knows what they’re attracted to and their own philosophical views, but almost no-one knows who their great-great-great grandparents were. It seems a curious thing to be bigoted based on something so challenging to assess.

last name, skin colour sometimes, city of origin

i've been on hiring teams and seen resume come through with photos of applicants (a big no no), religion (also a big no no), father's name (unheard of usually), and caste (again, unheard of otherwise)

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They ask innocent, shallow questions that don't seem to get much information from you: last name, home town, schools, diet, temple where you worship. Add that to visual clues like whether you have a string around your chest, where you have a dot placed on your face or how big the dot is or whatever, etc. Put all those small, innocent little bits of information into a big picture and it's basically a logic puzzle of finding enough clues to narrow down the caste.

[–] Pat12@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They ask innocent, shallow questions that don’t seem to get much information from you: last name, home town, schools, diet, temple where you worship. Add that to visual clues like whether you have a string around your chest, where you have a dot placed on your face or how big the dot is or whatever, etc. Put all those small, innocent little bits of information into a big picture and it’s basically a logic puzzle of finding enough clues to narrow down the caste.

exactly

[–] laylawashere44@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because different castes are generally different ethnic groups. Most people can tell Chinese, and Japanese people apart just by looking at them. You can do the same.

I'm not Indian, I'm Pakistani and while there isn't a caste system in Pakistan, there is definitely discrimination based on ethnicity in Pakistan.

And while most people can't tell Pakistani people from each other in the west, Pakistani people themselves can look at each other and tell if one is Muhajir, or Siraiki or Pathaan or Sindhi.

[–] Pat12@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most people can tell Chinese, and Japanese people apart just by looking at them.

i'm not sure this is true

[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

One of my Filipino buddies gets told to go back to Mexico a lot. Racists are dumb.

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago

Might be wrong, but I believe it's based on family name. You could avoid it by changing your name, but obviously a lot of people don't want to do that.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

It's 2023, folks! How is this still a thing...?

[–] rez_doggie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Apply this to police and their families. They treat everyone else like they are trash.

They gonna do anything about the culture of indians only hiring other Indians?