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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How much more can we do to destroy the environment?

How about driving for miles, to stay in an inhospitable place, cooking on fossil fuels, running generators, and having a huge bon fire?

We humans are so selfish and short sighted.

[–] riddlydee@retrolemmy.com 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

“We”? They’re the morons doing it.

[–] Aksamit 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People are people and we are people. There's no distancing ourselves from how our species behaves, however much we try to mitigate our own impacts.

[–] SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Don't you dare call me people, I'm a turtle bitch!!!!🐢🐢🐢

[–] bassad@jlai.lu 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean he is not wrong, that is exactly what we do when we go camping during holidays and have a barbecue

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

No. Burning man is so much more wasteful and abusive to the environment than campers are. The working class can follow the campsite rules, the owning class knows they don't have to.

[–] ChapolinColoradoNZ@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've never been to one myself.

[–] cerement 8 points 1 year ago

what? being surrounded by entitled elitist tech bros doesn’t appeal to you?

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I very much appreciate the "we" perspective, thanks. I've snickered at Burning Man for decades, and think it's indicative of everything wrong with humans, but I'm not an innocent bystander. None of us are.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But attendees should take note. “Mother Nature is not without a sense of irony, and surely she displayed it here,” says Mann. “What took place this year at Burning Man speaks profoundly to the message of the climate protesters who were shouted down by Burning Man only days earlier.” Mann thinks this could be a liminal moment for those in attendance. “The very sort of unbridled consumption and exploitation of nature that sadly now marks this event is precisely what is favoring the sort of extreme weather that this year turned the event into a scene from a disaster film.”

Also after seeing the video of how the alledgedly good vibes "burners" attacked the climate protest blocking their route, i can only agree to the told you so attitude. Then again it is truly remarkable how far detached the wealthy liberal Americans are from the reality of the harm they cause to the world.

[–] silence7 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The attack was from a cop, not the attendees.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Some peopel also started moving the stuff the people were chained to and in the video you can see one women getting choked by that briefly.