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This would feel less gas lighty if they were just open about micromanaging, their 10yr commercial lease, keeping up appearances for older clients or whatever. Instead they say the most laughable shit
"What we've found is, people have enjoyed coming back to the office," says Zoom's Chief People Officer Matthew Saxon. "There is a buzz. There's something about being able to go have lunch with your teammates."
Like mother fucker 90% of people eat some sad meal prep shit at their desk.
My bet is that in 2 years we'll see a stark devide in talent in traditional Vs remote first companies with the latter getting pick of the litter so to speak.
This is already happening. Remote roles are getting the cream of the crop while in office roles are getting the left overs.
People that are good and know it are not applying to in office jobs. Why would they sacrifice an additional 5-10 hours a week for no more pay and shitty open offices?
I mean the problem isn't even 'no more pay,' you are paid less if you work in an office. All the resources you use to commute cost more money than internet, which you're paying for anyway if you're alive in current year. Why would you willing take a pay cut, commit yourself to 5-10 unpaid hours of commuting, and ensure that you produce worse work and are less productive and producing that work while working in the most mentally and emotionally draining environments to ever be devised?
Not to mention that every fully or even partially remote role I've had let me expense some or all of my Internet and cell phone.
with the gas and mileage and undoubtubtly going out at least once in awhile or for some folks all the time.
It is nice having lunch with teammates. It's nicer having lunch at home in my sweats.
I much prefer having lunch in my PJs with my cats to having lunch with my coworkers.
walking the dog at lunch is a massive.
The irony of Zoom encouraging back to the office.
Eating al desco is depressing, and pretty gross.
The worst is when someone comes up while you’re eating and is like “hey you have a minute?” and then you have to say no fuck off as professionally as possible.
Just masticate enthusiastically in their face
Ohhh mastiCATE. Got it now.
I have zero interest in lunch with my coworkers and I've pretty much always felt that way.
So I do analysis on this type of data as part of my role at an online job board. Based on our data, a couple things stand out:
So what I'm seeing is many of these remote roles becoming supplanted by hybrid roles, which has pros and cons. They're still limited by the same geographic constraints as in-office roles, since you're not going to be applying to a hybrid role across the country, after all. So you'll see less variety of employers. The advantage is that if there is a hybrid role that looks appealing to you, that you'll be facing a lot less competition than you would for a fully remote role.
Remember when global carbon emissions dropped off because everyone was remote? Sure was nice while it lasted I guess.
Good luck assholes, I'm never going back into an office
I'm surprised share holders of a lot of big companies aren't demanding WFH. Office space is one of the larger chunks of overhead for a company (not just the space but utilities, supplies, maintenance/cleaning).
My guess is as leases are coming to an end that companies will definitely think twice before signing when WFH is an option.
My current job has us in the office a few days every 6-8 weeks and if it went to anymore than that the majority of the team I'm on would quit. It's pretty easy to find work right now with unemployment below 4%
Because office space 'overhead' was solved for decades ago. The same shareholders of a company own shares in at least a dozen commercial real estate companies. Their bottom line goes up when a company rents or owns commercial property. It doesn't matter if ProductionCo loses 10% revenue a year, RealEstateCo gets at least that much plus all more if they own the surrounding buildings all the restaurants are in that support the office.
Capitalism, contrary to popular belief, does not optimize for economic efficiency, just profit; and as it turns out profit has little to do with efficiency if you zoom out of any one particular company.
This. The office, the restaurants, the gym, the local stores? They're all owned by the same capitalists, and they want you spending your paycheck there. This is about converting the limited hours of your life into wealth for the rent-seeking bourgeousie: it's still the same company store. It just has a different name.
No war but the class war.
We got bought out by a holding corp and none of their holdings are real estate. All tech. We have been 100% wfh and a bit back they closed down the smaller offices but now they are dropping most all of them. Even the main office is being shuttered but they said with that one they are looking for a smaller space but at least for awhile I believe we will have no US offices.