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[–] schwim@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

One could say they're killing it off.

[–] Draghetta@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

About bloody time, don’t know anybody who used it in the last 10 years or so

[–] poopsmith@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

But it's such a killer filesystem!

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

I pronounce it murder-FUSS.

[–] Trail@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I assume there will be a userspace driver for it now, like fuse?

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Doubtful. Even among the Reiser users, I bet nobody uses a ReiserFS version bundled with the kernel. Reiser4 is has never been upstreamed which is a bit of a shame because technologically it's apparently quite good. Nobody but the leftover developers know why they did not just rename that thing and adapted it to kernel standards...

[–] biscotty666@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was one of the reiserfs users before it happened and I dumped it quickly. I think an awful lot of people did the same, and since it was one of a number of alternatives to ext I think it is more abandonment than obsolescence.

Now I think my decision was wrong headed, so long as he was no longer involved. The NASA example was given. Alfred Hitchcock movies? Abuser of women but damn good films.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

reiser4 was a promising filesystem (had transparent compression very early on) but reiser3 (reiserfs) didn't really have anything significant over ext3/4 so abandoning it made sense. And reiser4 never made the kernel so it's understandable that most never bothered with it, although I used it for a few years before btrfs became viable.

[–] biscotty666@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

At the time the competition was against a nascent ext3, as I recall, against which reiserfs had significant advantages. Journaling wasn't standard back then and wasn't handled by ext2, so there was a lot of competition, and it wasn't clear that ext3 would be the best solution.

Now that I think about it ext3 wasn't even a thing. And when it did come on line reiserfs already had a mature journaling system.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ext3 was definitely a thing by the time of the murder, but I was wrong in that ext4 wasn't released yet by the time Hans Reiser was convicted.

But if you meant when reiserfs was first released, that's fair. They were both ahead of their time for sure.

[–] biscotty666@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Reiserfs was the first journalling FS included in the Linux kernel. Ext3 didn't make it in until 2001. So reiser was the only game in town for us and why we moved that way. By the time of the murder ext3 was mature so the switch away wasn't a big deal.

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm glad we finally get to bury this hatchet...

[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remove the file system because it is obsolete but not because of the author. Or are we shutting down NASA due to its Nazi ties?

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Right, they're removing it because they can't get maintainers. It's obsolete, nobody ever said they're removing it because of Hans Reiser.