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CW for the link: death by vehicular violence

It was a bloody memorial day weekend in Cincinnati.

Even though the answer society needs to arrive at is banning cars, that reality seems so far away.

How realistic is it that we can start by banning these gigatrucks and SUVs from city streets where they simply don't belong?

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[–] FlashPossum@social.fossware.space 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tax vehicles according to their weight, or max axle load to be more accurate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_power_law

It will sort itself out.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Makes sense, as weight is the main cause of road wear, and in many places heavier electric cars aren't exactly paying their fair share for the infrastructure they use (at least the part that's paid through fuel excise and the like).

[–] davidlunadeleon@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

These kinds of vehicles are wholly unnecessary for the city. Using a big ass truck in the field makes sense, but lots of people in the city just buy them because they think that it makes them look badass.

I think we should start by establishing more car free zones in city centers, as well as redesigning the streets and sidewalks to give enough space for pedestrians and bikes to exist, instead of giving cars a sea of lanes that invite them to drive recklessly.

[–] SrEstegosaurio@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is already happening in a lot of cities. Where I live is starting now, slowly but ey, they are doing cool stuff.

[–] davidlunadeleon@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sounds like a dream. Any progress is better than no progress haha. We should still push for more changes to be made.

[–] SrEstegosaurio@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago
[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago

Who says we can't ban cars 😂

[–] seedling_attempt 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Look up Andreas Malm and the self admitted super cringe name Indians of the Concrete Jungle action that they did in Sweden in the 2000's. It turns out you don't need legal bans to do this, but can effectively ban specific models from city centers by continually letting out the air in their tires whenever they're parked at night.

No one gets hurt, it doesn't even damage the vehicles, but they have to tow them out, refill their tires and hopefully never come back.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Or fill their tires up with water so they go crazy trying to figure out whats wrong with their truck.

If you're gonna let the air out then also remove the valve stem internals with a valve stem tool (be sure to put the cap back on).

Dont slash tires as that's a huge waste of rubber.

[–] JohnBrownEnjoyer@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I can’t tell you how much I hate all those unnecessarily gigantic pickups and SUVs, and it doesn’t help that I live in the US, where that’s like 80% of cars I see daily.

I rarely ever see more than 2 people riding that kind of borderline tank of a car, so it’s not like most people who drive them even need them— they’re often nothing more than gas-guzzling, environment-destroying status symbols for bougie types.

[–] seahorse@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago

And you know that most people who own them never haul anything around with it.

[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

"Your vision is blocked by other cars if you don't drive an SUV!"

BECAUSE EVERYONE AND THEIR GRANDMA IS DRIVING AN SUV AND BLOCKS THE VISION OF EVERYONE ELSE!!

[–] seahorse@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I spent 4 years in Cincinnati for college. I wish there was better public transportation in the city. Too bad they never completed the subway system there back in the day.

[–] jus10@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Honestly, being the only city in Ohio with 24/7 bus service, it isn't as bad as I thought it would be.

[–] morashon@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Shoot the city I lived in before moving out of Ohio didn't have a bus service AFAIK so you got it good there.

[–] monotrox@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Completely banning trucks is probably hard to justify as there are still people that actually use them for their intended purpose, but getting rid of them in cities at least is probably a good idea

I think we should do it. I live in the south and even the people that “use their truuck” hardly ever do. Most of the trucks are prized possessions and aren’t allowed to be dirty. Like they’re a dress or a new pair of heels.

Even “work trucks” all covered in company stickers are clean and empty.

Only those busted up 10 year old F150s get used like trucks at any scale.

Change will only come from another generation. So teach your kids to talk trash about truck owners and it’ll fix itself.

[–] itchy_lizard@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can ban new sales to non-businesses and that will make a huge difference.

I think it should still be legal to rent trucks, but individuals shouldn't be able to buy them (unless it's for a business).

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People will just start a shell business just to put the truck under.

[–] RoquetteQueen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Very few people would bother with that

[–] Skooshjones@vlemmy.net 2 points 1 year ago

Things have gotten so insane in the last few decades. When I was a teen, I drove my folks' Chevy S10 pickup truck from the early 90's. It had the extra little crew cab with the side seats and the full size bed, and it still was smaller in overall size than a bunch of modern SUVs on the road now, let alone other modern trucks.

In 20 years in the USA, if things don't change, insecure douches will be driving around "compact" monster trucks and families will be convinced they "need" a full sized extended luxury Escalade with a lift kit and tow package, "for the kids" of course...

On the plus side, my spouse and I are shopping for Bicycles this summer! :) our one car is spending more and more time in it's garage and were walking/taking public transit more and more places all the time.

[–] sascuach@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Start a movement and I'll join

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

But how will all the landscaping equipment be hauled around?

[–] uranushertz@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

I agree with the spirit of the Title, but this article has nothing to do with either trucks or oversized SUV's.

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