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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 49 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Yenor, an avowed anti-feminist, has spoken previously of career-oriented females being “medicated, meddlesome and quarrelsome”, and has called US universities “citadels of gynecocracy”.

good job, "female" R voters. hope you enjoy your new mandatory role as literally nothing beyond kitchen bitch/ birthing cow

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

meddlesome and quarrelsome

citadels of gynecocracy

Holy shit, my sides. Stewie Griffin was supposed to talk the way he did for reasons of comedy. It wasn't supposed to be satire of anything.

[–] PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

IIRC his voice was modelled after Rex Harrison; specifically his role in My Fair Lady as Henry Higgins. Not quite satire; but both the actor and the character were fairly misogynistic ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

My Fair Lady

Which is a movie from the quite-misogenystic-1960's, made after a musical from the more-misogenystic-1950, after the even-more-misogenystic 1930's movie after the 1910's play that I don't know anything about, but i'm willing to make a bet...

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

US universities “citadels of gynecocracy”

Uhh... I don't know about the stats, but universities still seem to be male dominated. Neither the premise nor conclusion makes any sense.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

if you're in the states, then you need to get rid of the assumption that anything ever needs to make sense to republicans. the premise, support, warrant, conclusion---everything could be 100% wrong/false/irrelevant. it doesn't matter to them. you can't have these kinds of discussions with people who plug their ears and scream "fake news" at anything, regardless of how factual, that they don't want to hear

Yes, I obviously wouldn't bring a logical argument against someone like this, but it's fun to point out logical fallacies in groups like this.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There are more women in university now then men and has been for awhile. Source Google it tons of articles.

In faculty positions or just enrollment? I could believe the enrollment, but I doubt faculty will switch so quickly.

[–] argon@lemmy.today 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

More women than men were joining universitites (in the US) for the last 40 years.

And yet many people still push for more female enrolment in universities. That's the difference between feminism and equality.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/236360/undergraduate-enrollment-in-us-by-gender/

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I get that. My point is that gynecocracy is about people in power, so I was thinking about those in power at the universities (deans and professors), not enrollment. If enrollment is higher, wouldn't that have more to do with K-12 education (which is female dominated largely due to crappy pay, so won't likely be a primary breadwinner)?

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That’s exactly who they want to be.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 days ago

doesn't matter what they want now...

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I still don't really get how this works, and I have a PhD in education. I get the idea, and can totally see K-12 having a skew since that can be a few steps removed from primary sources, but any school conducting research will ultimately end up "liberal" because, on average, objective approaches point towards approaches adapted by liberals and leftists (plus genuine discourse usually leads to left out center conclusions because logic points there.).

My dept was full of people with very conservative beliefs (and even a bit racist) but their work still pointed to shit like basic income and socialist reforms being the solution to most education gaps. Advisor proudly displaying The Bell Curve on his shelf while simultaneously getting millions for experiments with giving families thousands of dollars of no strings attached money because evidence simply suggested it's a very effective solution!

So what is DeSantis doing to make it more conservative? Just focus more on majors without methodology? Avoid research funding and focus on instruction only? Add a whites only application pool? It's not like you can get published in a serious journal without an objective methodology. It's about as nonsensical as renaming the Gulf of Mexico, you have to get a global consensus for it to stick.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You're thinking too much reality-based. They are not trying to be factually correct. They are trying to win. If they say the schools have a liberal bias, and install authoritarian dopes who will "correct" the bias, that helps them win. Whether what they say is actually true, or whether the research is accurate that was being generated under these "liberal" models before they got involved, is simply of no consequence.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

It's just, much of university funding comes from research which requires peer review and recognition, so you can't hide behind falsities. You can probably do a few things to appease, but at the end of the day you can only ever get so far without adhering to reality. Mind you, this is only true of universities with research programs; you can censor all you want at Junior colleges and (ironically named) liberal arts colleges.

[–] FarFarAway@startrek.website 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Check out what they're doing with the university of austin. (Edit: This is a link to an article written by a conservative for conservatives. This is to show the ideology they're working toward. This is not a reality based analysis of whats actually happening. ) This is probably the model they'll start to adopt. Will it work out, is another question.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 3 points 4 days ago

If you control the programming, you control the people.