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[–] Arigion@feddit.org 165 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 49 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The Swasticar Wankpanzer is 100% something he would call the truck if his sycophant followers jokingly suggested it.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I want to hear dialogue like the fitness pacer test describing it

"The Swasticar WankPanzer is _____"

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[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 142 points 16 hours ago (9 children)

Brave protest. Pretty sure Nazi imagery is illegal in Germany. Somebody correct me if I’m wrong

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 411 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Making the German state officially state that this is Nazi imagery would be a worthwhile win lol.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 33 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure they have explicitly come out and said that the gesture was what we all know it to be. I'm sure the Internet can verify it for you though

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[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 82 points 16 hours ago

lol didn’t even think of that

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 33 points 14 hours ago

Holy shit nice

[–] Lupus@feddit.org 68 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

There's plenty of "fair use" cases which would allow it.

§86a STGB allows for the use of "symbols of anti-constitutional organizations" in cases of:

  • art (e.g. the movie "Downfall")
  • scientific research
  • education
  • news or other broadcast (covering Nazi Protests in the US for example, German news station don't have to censor the Swastika flags or the like)

And probably applying in this case - in protesting said anti-constitutional organizations, for example a crossed out Swastika as a form of protest against Nazis is still very much legal.

Most important is the intent. If you plan to use those symbols with the intent of furthering the ideology of anti-constitutional organizations, it is probably forbidden. The intention has to be clearly against those organizations, otherwise it might be actionable.

Btw the communist party of Germany, the KPD is also considered an anti-constitutional organization and therefore it's symbols are forbidden in the same way.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 21 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

§86a STGB allows for the use of "symbols of anti-constitutional organizations" in cases of:

  • art (e.g. the movie "Downfall")
  • scientific research
  • education
  • news or other broadcast (covering Nazi Protests in the US for example, German news station don't have to censor the Swastika flags or the like)

Which is funny because the video game series Wolfenstein famously had to change all of their in-game imagery. The series is about killing Nazis, but it was banned in Germany until the game devs removed all of the swastikas. Because apparently showing the swastika is banned, even when it’s used explicitly to say “these are the bad guys.”

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago

"Are we the baddies?"

"I dunno, our gear looks okay now?"

[–] Lupus@feddit.org 18 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, there were some real conservative views on what counts as art or education and what does not that influenced that decision I figure.

It's silly regardless on both sides in my personal view. Like yeah it's a little silly to not allow it, since the law would easily have allowed for it but also - it's a Swastika, I'm fine in a video game without it, I'm not gonna die on that specific hill for sure.

[–] ppue@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You wouldn't even have to die on that hill anymore because you can buy the uncensored wolfensteins in Germany today.

[–] friendlymessage@feddit.org 10 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

Yes! Interestingly, this only is possible now because the rules changed in 2018: https://usk.de/usk-beruecksichtigt-bei-altersfreigabe-von-spielen-kuenftig-sozialadaequanz/

The German bureaucracy changed their stance from "Nazi shit should not be in games, period" to "it depends on social adequacy" which meant that games from then on where handled the same way as other forms of art.

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 56 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It is with few exceptions. Given that it looks like the purpose is to call out a Nazi supporter I think they wouldn't get in trouble for that though.

[–] Schmoo 18 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

It's not exactly uncommon for systems set up to oppose something to end up supporting them instead. See the ADL covering for Elon and condemning those opposed to genocide as antisemitic. In theory the ADL should be opposed to fascism, but because Israel has become fascist they found themselves on the same side as those who had been and would be their oppressors.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

When one's ideological architecture if reliant on the idea that people are defined by ethnicity, whole ethnicities are good/victims and others are bad/aggressors and the ethnicity of a person determines how he or she should be treated, Fascism is but a miniscule distance away.

This applies to Israel (whose constitution very literally says the country is a nation of a single ethnicity and all those of that ethnicity are its nationals) and its sockpuppets around the World, as does in Germany where the authorities have once again revealed their black heart in connection to the Israeli Genocide.

I suspect a lot of those pseudo-idologies and organisations just served to hide those with a Fascist heart during the period when Fascism was "unfashionable" and now that it's on the rise again they're coming out in support of Fascists but using the language of the pseudo-ideology that so successfully made them seem movements for good rather than just another variant of Racist.

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[–] Dequei@sopuli.xyz 168 points 17 hours ago (6 children)
[–] itsathursday@lemmy.world 50 points 15 hours ago

Man baby needs to be held accountable for his actions.

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