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[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 10 points 1 hour ago

This will be great for business. If I had Tesla, I would try to get rid of it.

That is an out-fucking-standing protest projection.

[–] sudo@lemmy.today 79 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Introducing the new Model SS.

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

They can't do that - GM Holden had the SS since ever.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

You can get a box trailer upgrade for the model X that can transport 'livestock' on the cheap, called the model X-terminate

[–] Arigion@feddit.org 121 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 29 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The Swasticar Wankpanzer is 100% something he would call the truck if his sycophant followers jokingly suggested it.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 hours ago

I want to hear dialogue like the fitness pacer test describing it

"The Swasticar WankPanzer is _____"

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 122 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

Brave protest. Pretty sure Nazi imagery is illegal in Germany. Somebody correct me if I’m wrong

[–] DegenerationIP@lemmy.world 6 points 45 minutes ago

Freedom of art in that regard. The only illegal thing might be to project something to the factory

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 354 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Making the German state officially state that this is Nazi imagery would be a worthwhile win lol.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 27 points 5 hours ago

I'm pretty sure they have explicitly come out and said that the gesture was what we all know it to be. I'm sure the Internet can verify it for you though

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 28 points 8 hours ago

Holy shit nice

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 72 points 10 hours ago

lol didn’t even think of that

[–] Lupus@feddit.org 54 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

There's plenty of "fair use" cases which would allow it.

§86a STGB allows for the use of "symbols of anti-constitutional organizations" in cases of:

  • art (e.g. the movie "Downfall")
  • scientific research
  • education
  • news or other broadcast (covering Nazi Protests in the US for example, German news station don't have to censor the Swastika flags or the like)

And probably applying in this case - in protesting said anti-constitutional organizations, for example a crossed out Swastika as a form of protest against Nazis is still very much legal.

Most important is the intent. If you plan to use those symbols with the intent of furthering the ideology of anti-constitutional organizations, it is probably forbidden. The intention has to be clearly against those organizations, otherwise it might be actionable.

Btw the communist party of Germany, the KPD is also considered an anti-constitutional organization and therefore it's symbols are forbidden in the same way.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 15 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

§86a STGB allows for the use of "symbols of anti-constitutional organizations" in cases of:

  • art (e.g. the movie "Downfall")
  • scientific research
  • education
  • news or other broadcast (covering Nazi Protests in the US for example, German news station don't have to censor the Swastika flags or the like)

Which is funny because the video game series Wolfenstein famously had to change all of their in-game imagery. The series is about killing Nazis, but it was banned in Germany until the game devs removed all of the swastikas. Because apparently showing the swastika is banned, even when it’s used explicitly to say “these are the bad guys.”

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago

"Are we the baddies?"

"I dunno, our gear looks okay now?"

[–] Lupus@feddit.org 13 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, there were some real conservative views on what counts as art or education and what does not that influenced that decision I figure.

It's silly regardless on both sides in my personal view. Like yeah it's a little silly to not allow it, since the law would easily have allowed for it but also - it's a Swastika, I'm fine in a video game without it, I'm not gonna die on that specific hill for sure.

[–] ppue@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You wouldn't even have to die on that hill anymore because you can buy the uncensored wolfensteins in Germany today.

[–] friendlymessage@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yes! Interestingly, this only is possible now because the rules changed in 2018: https://usk.de/usk-beruecksichtigt-bei-altersfreigabe-von-spielen-kuenftig-sozialadaequanz/

The German bureaucracy changed their stance from "Nazi shit should not be in games, period" to "it depends on social adequacy" which meant that games from then on where handled the same way as other forms of art.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Game publishers could've changed it way earlier but noone bothered to bring a case to court but opted to self-censor instead, thus the BPjM had to follow an age-old, singular, court ruling.

The game that prompted the change was this one, in particular Gauland's special move is a swastika. Someone, predictably, complained, and the case didn't even make it before court as the state attorney said "this is obviously completely legal political commentary".

To top it all off the game was published by public TV. Same people who made this sketch.

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 51 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It is with few exceptions. Given that it looks like the purpose is to call out a Nazi supporter I think they wouldn't get in trouble for that though.

[–] Schmoo 16 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

It's not exactly uncommon for systems set up to oppose something to end up supporting them instead. See the ADL covering for Elon and condemning those opposed to genocide as antisemitic. In theory the ADL should be opposed to fascism, but because Israel has become fascist they found themselves on the same side as those who had been and would be their oppressors.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 hours ago

German police have been especially harsh on anti-genocide protesters as well.

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[–] Dequei@sopuli.xyz 145 points 11 hours ago (5 children)
[–] itsathursday@lemmy.world 44 points 10 hours ago

Man baby needs to be held accountable for his actions.

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