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Among those receiving the pardons were Gen. Mark A. Milley, the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the longtime government scientist; and all the members of the bipartisan House committee that investigated the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, including former Representative Liz Cheney, a Republican from Wyoming.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

Surprisingly it was Liz Cheney and not Dick Cheney.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Doesn't matter. They'll just come up with a whole new list of charges to hit them with.

Johnson could order "hearings" in order to prove Fauci himself concocted and released COVID-19 out of his own basement, and subpoena Fauci to testify, then hit him with obstruction charges when he refuses to participate in their kangaroo court. Or they won't go after Cheney for her role in the j6 hearings, but they'll suddenly have hearings about the 2020 election being stolen and what her role in that was.

You get the idea. It doesn't take much to make an end-run around these pardons if Trump really wants to, and even if that fails, there's the very real possibility that SCOTUS will magically say they have the right to "judicial review" of these pardons and just invalidate them. Would be far from the first time that SCOTUS just created powers for itself out of thin air.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Finally he's grown a sack. Good for him. It's a sensible precaution.

Also it is going to massively drive up Trump's blood pressure, which might eventually do us all a favor.

[–] d3lta19@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 hours ago

Just imagine what trump and his associates can do now and get a pre-emptive pardon on the way out. Not good precedence to set.

[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 14 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Did I eat The Onion?
Did the NYT eat The Onion?
Did Biden eat The Onion?

Who in their right mind believes the magats are going to honour the rule of law or these pardons especially?

[–] silence7 20 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

It's going to make it a notch harder to prosecute people for bogus charges. The appearance of legality is still somewhat important if the target is cis and doesn't have dark skin.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I heard that pardons when you haven't been convicted of crime mean nothing. Also you think Trump Supreme Court going honor those? Also does anyone believe Trump going start following the law now that he is back in power?

There will not be a 2028 election Trump if still alive will find a way. Hell that if we survive the next four years.

[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 1 points 3 hours ago

I sure hope so but I’m not holding my breath.

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Biden was president the last 3 months? I thought he died or something.