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After weeks of local speculation, the purchasers of 55,000 acres of northern California land have been revealed. The group Flannery Associates – backed by a cohort of Silicon Valley investors – has quietly purchased $800m worth of agricultural and empty land, the New York Times has reported. Their goal is to build a utopian new town that will offer its thousands of residents reliable public transportation and urban living, all of which would operate using clean energy.

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[–] karmiclychee@sh.itjust.works 109 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They could just pay their fucking taxes so we can have trains

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

But think of all the jobs they'll "create"!

(/s so hard)

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's not even limited by taxes, it's limited by 4 fucking companies owning most of the tracks, and them being given free reign to run freight as shittily as possible, not maintain the tracks unless actively forced to, and giving precisely 0 fucks about passenger service.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCBI3lPt3o4

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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 105 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Lol again with this? Wealthy fucks have been trying this since the 1700s. It never works.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

CA is already only for wealthy people.

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[–] ZzyzxRoad@lemm.ee 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I fucking hate that they used the term "empty" land. The poll question posed to residents asked them if they would be more in favor if they knew it was "bad soil" that only contributed to 5% of CA agriculture, as though making money is all that land is good for.

Yes, Fairfield, CA is kind of a shit hole. But NorCal open land is absolutely beautiful, like all of California. Every single fucking time I go there, which is pretty frequently, there are new mcmansion housing developments and business parks and data centers that are starting to be built or have just finished. There are protected wetlands between Sacramento and the east bay (far east) where migratory birds come back every year. Just because they don't build on the fucking wetlands doesn't mean this constant building isn't going to affect what little nature is left. I'm so fucking sick of seeing my home paved over for profit and I feel so powerless to do anything. Because I am powerless.

As if that weren't enough, we all know this is going to be some walled-off rich-people city where they can escape from us proles, right? Sick shit.

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They're building more data centres and California has a water shortage?

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

5% of California's agriculture isn't "bad soil."

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[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The American Dream was get married and have a job, buy a house, have a family, and retire.

Now it is to be so rich and wealthy that you don't have to care about anyone else.

[–] ManateeFeet@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

And if you aren’t getting rich, just don’t care about anyone else. You’re half way there. /s

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

Now it is to be so rich and wealthy that you don't have to care about anyone else.

That has always been part of the dream. It's just you can only get there if you were born on third base now.

[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Told you it's rich doom preppers who will build a literal walled garden.

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

Yep, it's a return to feudalism and vassalage. A fortress for themselves and their servants (billionaires don't do their own cooking and cleaning, they are important people afterall).

They know they need reasons for people to pledge fealty and they think public transport, apartments and clean energy is enough of a drawcard for their workers. The sad part is that they have eroded workers rights so far that they may well be right. Many other places in the world, these perks are much more normal.

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[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

There has to be more to this story...

If the distinguishing features are public transportation and clean energy, they’re probably not building it to live in themselves. And while there’s a big demand for more housing in the Bay Area generally, Solono County is a bit of a commute for current workers.

It feels like they’re building this as a company town for some yet-to-be-announced new business project that they want to be isolated from existing urban areas.

(edit) I guess I don’t mean "urban areas" so much as areas where employees would have contact with other Silicon Valley firms and culture.

[–] ultimate_question@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Agreed, regardless of what this is there's a 100% chance that it's a profit scheme and has nothing to do with building anything practical for anyone

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In my day they were called New Towns.

They're all shit holes now.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

as Adam Something on YouTube puts it, ultra rich people + construction equals dumb shit.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Encircles an air force base. Why would anyone want to live encircling an air force base?

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I bet they'll act like people who move next to a farm and complain about the smell.

"Hiiii, we're your neighbors down the road. Do you think you could not fly your little airplanes around? They're awfully loud. Thanks bunches!"

[–] geodesic 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You joke, but the towns of Portola Valley and Woodside (south of SF) are so wealthy and powerful they literally rerouted some plane routes by pulling strings of the FAA because they didn’t like the noise.

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[–] young_broccoli@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] sharkfeek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 1 year ago (7 children)

You also misspelt dystopian.

[–] young_broccoli@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Oh god... Its an epidemic!!!

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[–] Something_Complex@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Why improve current cities where people want to live when you can build the cyberpunk future distopian citry right here in your desert backyard.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's going to end up soulless and miserable, no doubt

just a series of mansions connected by roads, completely forgetting any sort of amenities or ability to produce things locally, because rich people think "mom and pop store" is when get your parents to bring things along on their private jet.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago
  • City built by tech bros
  • Utopian

Pick one.

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

Just a bunch of rich fucks trying to con other rich fucks and hope to leave whoever is holding their junk bonds in the lurch.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every generation gets the Galt’s Gulch it deserves

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[–] SeeingWhereThisGoes@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Night city didn't work out so great in Cyberpunk 2077

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This is end game capitalism. They have their own cities with their own laws. You are essentially forced to live and work at the same place and buy your groceries and other essentials from your employees. You’re basically an indentured servant at that moment.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Actually, this is early stage capitalism. Company towns were a thing in the late 19th and early 20th century. Government eventually stepped in, broke up the trusts and made that kind of thing a relic of a worse time.

People have forgotten their and they're now repeating it. We've been in the second Gilded age for what - 30 years now?

Child labor was just legalized in Kansas I think and it looks like some other Republican states are trying to do the same.

This is what happens when you let the foxes run the hen house.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Exactly why Amazon been taking about building such towns for its workers. I swear if the conservatives get their way and the way things are going I see them trying to find a way legalize slavery again.

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[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

Can't wait to owe my soul to the company store

[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Utopian city for themselves and the select few

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Probably more like a company town type of deal. Musk is building something similar in Texas. The capitalists want to bring the 19th century back.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Can't wait to rent a studio apartment in Bezosville, I hear if you save up your Bezos Bucks you can afford an Amazon Chocolate Snack once a month

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Might as well call it Night City from Cyberpunk 2077.

[–] ElZoido@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Why do I have the feeling this is going to turn into some sort of cyberpunk distopia quickly?

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

because this kind of plan went wrong multiple times before

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[–] Khalic@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (7 children)

So working public transportation = utopia ?
How can one country be so disconnected from reality?

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[–] ratofkryll@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

I'm getting real California City vibes.

[–] LeatherRebel@leminal.space 6 points 1 year ago

how about we build a guillotine on the land instead

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