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[–] ChocoboRocket@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't know why I keep watching these, fucking war is brutal as fuck.

Definitely want Ukraine to have all its land back and Ruzzia can go fuck itself for all the atrocities they continuously spread across the world.

But not all these soldiers are war criminals, often the people dieing in this grinder are the least responsible for what their country or army is doing.

Hopefully all this death eventually comes home to roost with those who are responsible for Putins pointless war.

[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

But not all these soldiers are war criminals, often the people dieing in this grinder are the least responsible for what their country or army is doing.

Perhaps, but still infinitely more responsible than any person who isn't actively participating in the Russian invasion, which all of these guys definitely were.

Very very few combatants ever choose war as a solution. History shows that it's a choice made by those that never do any actual fighting, nor share in any risks of that decision, either.

These so-called leaders are always the ones that have sent our children to die to/kill each other. Everything else is propaganda.

War serves only profit itself and is never a "solution" without someone secretly standing to gain from it.

[–] exapsy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But not all these soldiers are war criminals

They literally are war criminals. They're participating in an invasion for no cause other than boosting Putin's ego.

And I've seen the propaganda advertisments in Russia "Go to war, support your country" and "Go to war, gives good money, support your family" and such.

Invading another country without cause makes you literally a war criminal. It is really ... that simple. Russia is literally a terrorist state at that moment. They've killed hundreds of civilians, thousands of Ukrainian fighters as well. Putting mines all over the place. Crippling and injuring so many other fighters and civilians as well. Sent terrorist groups.

If you're participating in such war, you are a war criminal. You can kill yourself. you can abandon your unit. You can bribe your commanders. You can run away before all this even starts. But by the moment you're invading another country and you're killing innocent people who have done NOTHING to you, you're a war criminal. It is really ... that simple. Coz it's "either I save myself or I kill these innocent people". That's a war criminal mindset coz it makes it seem as if you're a good guy in your mind. When you're not.

Pretty brutal.

But also, those shots at the beginning where you can see a tank fire, and then see the shockwave from the round itself disrupt the grass as it flies over was one of the coolest bits of military footage that I’ve seen in a while.

Слава Україні.

[–] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

This is terrible. War is hell.

Fuck the Russian government for causing this violence. This is a violation of human decency.

[–] Juujian@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hope that single Ukrainian at the end made it out alive.

[–] MedicatedMaybe@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah hopefully he's okay it looks like three of the four Russians were KIA. Looks like the only one left was the one on the top right.

[–] Cpo@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Why is the soundtrack always an uptempo video game like soundtrack?

It's not a game. It's a war.

[–] zebbedi@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Wow some of that footage was insane. I can't imagine being in that situation but these guys are legends.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The absolute chaos of trench warfare. Most of them didn't even realized what hit them.

And they never will.

[–] exapsy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

War is hell. But remember, all these people were sent to kill innocent people. I dont care about "why". The ends doesnt justify the means.

They were sent to kill innocent people. You can kill yourself and save a ton of innocent lives by not placing mines all over the place. Kids even.

You can bribe your commander.

You can run before all this happens. By the time you suspect they're going to call you even. Tons of Russians have already done that.

You can revolute against your own government. Yes, going to prison, is FUCKING BETTER than killing innocent lives and children or supporting a war where people have been raping women.

Like jesus. The copium of trying to support these soldiers that were sent to kill other innocent people who have done NOTHING to them, is amazingly high.

Guys and girls. these people are there to kill people, kids, civilians. Not play on the playground. War is hell. And if you're on the wrong side of war, you deserve no mercy until you're immobilized. Maybe treatment, maybe being human to them. But once you're active and ready to kill and support this war, you can fuck off back to Russia or the other world.