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[–] bladewdr@infosec.pub 78 points 1 year ago

Sounds like a cost of living adjustment to me.

I'd also like to know where these surveys are being run, as the COL varies wildly between states.

[–] Byereddithellolemmy@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems reasonable. Life is expensive as fuck.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

$10 for a jar of pickles. Bit of a luxury now.

[–] PR3CiSiON@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Time to start bootlegging pickles

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Ask if the pay increases are keeping up with inflation and cost of living. Then base your higher salary ask on this information.

[–] 0110010001100010@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So:

The average reservation wage of U.S. jobs seekers — the lowest annual pay workers would accept for a new job — climbed to a record high of $78,645 in July, up from $72,873 at the same time last year, according to the survey.

Combined with:

Yet the average full-time wage offer received in the past four months was $69,475, itself a marked increase from $60,764 last July.

So that's a ~13.5% increase in full-time wage offers vs a ~7.5% increase in ask. This seems like a non-story then, yes? Inflation has pushed wages higher which has pushed expectations higher. However, the offer increase is higher than the ask increase so... Am I missing something here?

[–] Foggyfroggy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree it’s a non story. I mean, take out the numbers and the headline is pretty much “employees want more money and employers don’t want to give it”.

[–] 0110010001100010@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

But that's my point, employers are giving it (kinda, I'll circle-back to this). The full-time offer has gone up $9k in the last 12 months. Contrasted with the ask that has only gone up $6k in that same time-frame.

Now, is $70k a livable wage? Hard to say without a more specific location. In bumfuck Alabama, probably. In LA, hell no.

[–] Foggyfroggy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I agree with you totally. I made the same point lower down and it got downvoted ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] Alto@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

In bumfuk Alabama that'll make you one of, if not the, richest people there.

[–] dumptruckdan@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

~~Unsurprising. $78k/yr comes out to $2194/mo take home pay per Smartasset's calculator. Average rent is well over $1k/mo with no signs of going down any time soon. Landlords frequently demand potential renters have an income of 3x the rent. Gotta live somewhere.~~

Apparently I'm stupid but I'm too tired to fix it rn so I will just leave my shame up here for all to see. My point is being alive is expensive and bad math or no I'm still not surprised to see this.

Edit again because I'm also too stupid to do a strikethrough correctly even with a formatting bar right there. FML and F this phone too, I'm going to bed

[–] Alenalda@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This math doesn't add up 78k is 6.5/mo?

[–] 0110010001100010@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

The calculator defaults to semi-monthly and I think the original commenter didn't change it. Also, it defaults to your current location so the take-home will be different for everyone running the calculator (because taxes). $78k is $6500 a month BEFORE TAXES.

[–] sawdustprophet@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago

$78k/yr comes out to $2194/mo take home pay

Just pointing out, that's semi monthly according to that page. So $4400/month.

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

You do realize that says semi-monthly, right? Which is twice a month.

So $4400 a month which is right on par with $6500 a month before taxes ($78k).

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Uhhhh... that math isn't mathing right.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Also note, this is the amount minimum for someone willing to leave their current job. So that eliminates recently graduated or low skill non college workers from this equation.