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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/19448624

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All the ways people can be not cis

(Not really, there's too many to list in a single post)

Transgender:
When one's assigned gender at birth is different from one's actual gender.

Ipsogender:
Intersex people who identify as their assigned gender at birth, but do not feel the term "cisgender" applies to them.

Ultergender:
Intersex people who identify as a gender other than their assigned gender at birth, but do not feel the term "transgender" describes them due to being intersex. A "trans intersex" person.

Cisn't:
An umbrella for anyone who isn't cisgender.

Transn't:
An umbrella for anyone who isn't transgender.

Isogender:
When you're not cis, but you don't identify as trans.

Absgender:
Someone beyond, between or removed from cis/trans dichotomy.

Centrgender:
An umbrella for anyone who isn't cisgender or transgender.

Utrinquegender:
Someone who has aspects of both trans and cis experiences.

Adgender:
When someone moves towards a particular gender expression. Includes trans people as well as people who are not trans but still transition.

Demicisgender:
Identifying partially as your assigned gender/sex at birth, and partially not.

Demitransgender:
Identifying partially, but not completely as transgender.

As shown here, it's definately not a binary Even though some people think it is.


I made this because I wanted to educate people on the diversity of gender modalities and show that it's way more complicated than saying not-cis = trans like people often say. There's way more nuance to it.

Does anyone here think they may relate to any of these other labels? I relate and identify with Isogender personally.

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[–] Comrade_Spood@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I get this is a situation of I don't understand and don't need to understand, but some of these seem redundant. like Isogender and centrgender. Still neat little infographic.

[–] traches@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I’m guessing since there’s no Central Gender Authority, there’s no standardization. People don’t fit into the labels available to them and make new ones, concurrently.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We don't need labels to talk about our preferences, though?

[–] traches@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

Sure, but having words for things makes them easier to talk about

Yeah some are a little redundant, maybe because some are meant to be umbrella terms and others are meant to be more precise. Also because they were coined at different times and in different places, like how we have non-binary and genderqueer.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 week ago

I consider myself gender anarchist.

Just fuck genders in general. Good luck trying to stick me to any gender.

[–] dastechniker@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

misread ultergender as ultragender, got excited for a V1 shitpost

[–] FirstMajesticComet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Just looked up Ultragender and it's a thing.

Here's the flag:

[–] dastechniker@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago
[–] luciole@beehaw.org 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Gender may be approximated with binary (64 bits on modern hardware, 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 possible values)

[–] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago
char* gender;

But make sure you're running in 64-bit mode for the full range

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I only included gender modalities, I thought about including gender identities too but decided not too since the page was getting full and I knew people would just argue that those are trans and redundant. Maybe if I remake this I'll add them though, along with Genderqueer, Non-Binary, Genderfluid, and many of the other common and less common ones.

[–] orvorn 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You'd think we would be at the top of the list!

If I'd included identities in addition to gender modalities I probably would have.

[–] starbrite@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Everyone always forgets mine (bigender)

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago

Is that bi-gender, or big-ender?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

The post said it wasn't actually all of them

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wonder how many people actually identify with each of those

Also reminded me of this https://youtube.com/watch?v=DoZFZto6Wqg

I certainly do, and so did many other people on r/Agender that I talked to. Isogender and Absgender seemed mild popular among people there, as well as Centrgender, at least at the time of asking. I haven't been on Reddit in a while and it's possible those people have moved on as well.

I didn't like that video honestly, wasn't one of lily's best moments in my opinion. Really just came across as trying to gatekeep identities and argue against people having more individualized identities, I've seen people using the same arguments about xenogenders and nonbinary people before.

Many of the arguments are also appeals to popularity, trying to dismiss their validity because they're less popular or claiming they aren't valid because "the only people talking about this are young kids on Tumblr" same bullshit arguments used against nonbinary identities in the earlier days.

[–] Exec@pawb.social 6 points 1 week ago

Demicisgender: Demidutch?

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago

Centrgender flag looks so cool

Im so sad im only transgender and not centrgender

I identify as "very, very tired of thinking about genders, especially my own".

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's weird that technically, by the definition on the post, cis people are transn't. But transn't people can still fit the definition of "not being cis". I was going to (jokingly) call you out for the miscategorization.

Yeah the overlap from some of these labels can be a bit weird. In my opinion these don't replace terms for gender identities, they are complementary to them. For example I am Isogender-Agender or Agender-Isogender. SImilar to how someone would say they are Trans-Nonbinary. You have a more broad label, paired with a more sharp, precise label.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

oh boy the mogais are back

[–] FirstMajesticComet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Is MOGAI a bad thing?

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

mod removed AVincentInSpace's comment

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Definitely*

Great graphic though!

[–] FirstMajesticComet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks, yeah I realized after I made the info-graphic and uploaded it and was transcribing that I accidentally made a stupid typo. I'd already closed the project though, to fix it I'd have to remake it largely from scratch.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

It's a common mistake, don't stress it. :)