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Afaik this happened with every single instance of a communist country. Communism seems like a pretty good idea on the surface, but then why does it always become autocratic?

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[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago

By its nature, communism requires large amounts of control, as it's a centrally planned economy. The state decides if it needs more coal, wheat, tools, steel, etc, then conscipts people as workers for various industries. Instead of an economy controlled by demand business owners, it is controlled by the state.

To maintain that control you need to maintain control of the people.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago

In modern communist societies the government has an insane amount of power and control over just about everything. This power and control attracts a certain type of person who thirsts for power and control. People usually develop a bloodthirsty desire for power and control due to underlying psychological issues. These issues influence the person to think they ALWAYS need more power (think anorexic person who weighs 95lbs but still insists they are overweight).

It's a human nature problem imo.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (17 children)

Because thats the end result of embiggening the state: The state gets bigger, and the oligarchs just changes faces.

It was something Marx remarked on later, post Paris Commune.

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[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz -2 points 2 weeks ago

"Why do tadpoles always turn into frogs?"

[–] stoly@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You can really ask the same question about capitalist societies. Why is there such oppression? Why is there a group that can do anything and a group that cannot? Regardless of your political system, human behavior is the same and it usually involves insecure ape-like people who want power for power's sake. Communism, just like every political system ever created, trends towards this sort of behavior.

As someone else said, desperation will cause people to move towards authoritarian thought, be that the extreme right (fascism) or the extreme left (communism).

[–] oVerde@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago

In a decentralized network I wasn't expecting this amount of shallow answers about this topic

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The word "communism" means a specific social arrangement, but is misused to denounce things people don't like. Similar to the word "slavery" today.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world -5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Because it is not human nature and has to be forced on people. Eventually even those who are in charge of it fall into the normal human nature of social structures and such.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -5 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Because extremes don't work.

From what I've seen over the past 100 years, pure capitalist societies fail (hello Americans!) just lie pure communist societies (hello Russia!)

What works well are free societies that mix strong capitalism systems to fund strong social systems and safety nets (hello, north west Europe!)

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