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[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 155 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The Moon, unprovoked, collided with the Russian vessel that was approaching amicably. An old, whitened but still recognizable USA flag was planted on the Moon's surface, indicating this as a clear act of aggression from the imperialist power

[–] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago

The Moon said it might join NATO so they had to hit it. They really had no choice.

[–] RheingoldRiver@kbin.social 89 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

ceased to exist as a result of a collision with the surface of the Moon

lol

[–] huginn@feddit.it 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rapid unscheduled disassembly as the result of a lithobraking maneuver

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's part of slow and scheduled disassembly of Roskosmos as organization. 10 years ago it already seemed to be on that trajectory.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

"Roscosmos was mistaken, the landing was actually successful and there was just a temporary communication error." - Kremlin

[–] ApeNo1@lemm.ee 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The “Kaputnik” has landed.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 13 points 1 year ago

Paid for in rubble.

[–] 0Empty0@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Glad it was unmanned. There's enough senseless death in the world.

If you take a look at the lunar missions for space race, you'll see many of them happened within a year of each other. It's a wonder there weren't more failures!

Compare that to today, where it took almost 20 years of planning for the Hubble telescope to come into fruition.

You shouldn't rush things in space. This is just the latest reminder.

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Technically, the death would have been off-world.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Don't you think that the fact that the mission was unmanned meant that they knew that they're not ready for manned ones yet? So nobody was rushing, as you put it.

[–] Rainhall@feddit.online 17 points 1 year ago

Crewed vs uncrewed is a decision made at the very beginning of the planning stages, years ago. These days a crew is just a gigantic extra expense on a mission with little return. Remotely operated missions can achieve all their scientific objectives.

[–] deadcream@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Manned lunar lander is a mich complex piece of technology which needs to be developed from scratch. It also needs a much more powerful rocket which Russia don't have either. It's at least a decade of extra R&D time even if they get all the funding they need and magically get rid of corruption (which obviously won't happen).

It's unmanned not because they chose it but because they are literally incapable of making a manned mission (at the very least for a couple of generations).

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Well, "incapable" is still not true. Yet. There are people and even places. Fewer and fewer.

It's just that nobody really wants anything. All those "big fish" of Russia's current regime - they are corrupt in the full sense of the word, they don't have any goals even of the tragicomedy "USSR restoration" sort. They are all simply being bought and sold by various more coherent dictatorships and factions around.

I mean, if there was hope for anything else, then that would reflect on the military and a military takeover would have already happened. Maybe not a good thing without context, but that would mean that Russia as a society is not in such deep apathy.

[–] 0Empty0@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What? It clearly states in the article they knew it was risky... I would consider that rushing.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sure, but it's not rushing as in "let's skip steps of the plan for the sake of time," like it happened with, say, oceangate. It was a calculated risk.

[–] 0Empty0@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/20/world/luna-25-spacecraft-moon-collision-intl/index.html

We've just had more information come out, and it appears you're right about the rushing! I'll eat crow on that

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is what they said, yeah.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but it was a weird comment. It sounded like saying "don't forget to eat your veggies" in an article about salad prepping.

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[–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Russia is a world power" 🫡

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, nobody claimed they'd be a moon power, too.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

Guess all those Ukrainian toilets didn't make good components for a lunar lander?

[–] Smartboystupid@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Good, because they would most probably use it to plant their stupid Z swastika on the moon, because nobody could stop them there.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 22 points 1 year ago

A couple years back, Putin promised to put a Russian on the moon. A good question is "with what rocket?"

Turns out, an even better question is "with what communications system?" A factor in this crash is that they lack a round-the-world comm system. They can only communicate when the moon is visible over Russia. It's a big country, of course, but not big enough for 24/7 communication.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"All Russia-hating Nazis were eliminated at the crash site."

The moon's children have been taken for safe keeping.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago

Oh well,... Anyway

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've played my share of Kerbel Space Program.

The lander made a planned flight to the moon, which included a high acceleration parking maneuver which resulted in unquestionable sucesss! To the Mun!

[–] FFbob@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Lithobreaking maneuver.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Well, I mean... You just point at it and fire all the rockets. Even the Russians can do it!

[–] WolfhoundRO@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Russians losing at HOI4 only for them to also lose at Kerbal Space Program. They use quickload and quicksaves too much imo

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Russia's Luna-25 spacecraft has crashed into the Moon after spinning out of control, officials say.

The unmanned craft was due to make a soft landing on the Moon's south pole, but failed after encountering problems as it moved into its pre-landing orbit.

The spacecraft was scheduled to land on Monday to explore a part of the Moon which scientists think could hold frozen water and precious elements.

Roscosmos, Russia's state space corporation, said on Sunday morning that it had lost contact with the Luna-25 shortly after 14:57pm (11:57 GMT) on Saturday.

"The apparatus moved into an unpredictable orbit and ceased to exist as a result of a collision with the surface of the Moon," it said in a statement.

Russia has been racing to the Moon's south pole against India, whose Chandrayaan-3 spacecraft is scheduled to land on there next week.


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[–] Archer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I really want this to have been Ukraine doing it, somehow

[–] blendedracer@aussie.zone 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh No! . . . . . . . . Anyway!

[–] lorez@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] SevFTW@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

lmao imagine Dacia landing a manned Sandero on the moon before RuZZia

[–] WolfhoundRO@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I've got a new picture!

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

On brand for Putin

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

This is what happens when one vodka's and drives.

[–] detox@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago

They were looking for the Iron-Sky but got intercepted

[–] ik5pvx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago
[–] tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The russians are actually pretty good at space.. although a lot of that was due to koralev inventing most of what they use.. soyuz has been extremely successful. So I have no doubt they can get to the moon.. hopefully next time at a speed that doesn't pancake the ship..

[–] WolfhoundRO@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The russian success stops at Soyuz. Ask N1 what the hell was doing until the soviets back then gave up on such a faulty project